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by Frawgg on September 28, 2005
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I've read the product reviews on Visin Cages and the potential problems associated with them. I was wondering if the manufacturer has addressed the problem with the spacing between the dual sliding glass doors with an improved version (i.e, one-piece sliding door). I really think the manufacturer is "on" to creating one of the better caging systems for reptiles but I would like to know if "he" is listening to suggestions. Are there ant other caging systems out there that might suit my caging needs? I primarily keep fossorial (burrowing) species and I am unsure as to how many inches there is between the floor of the cage to the bottom of the sliding glass door. Space is a concern and I like the concept of a stackable system. Thanks for all replies!!!
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by Phobos on September 28, 2005
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Hi:
I use a number of Vision 221 & 400's to house my collection. My big concern is not the space between the panes of glass it's the recess above & below the sliding glass. I've kept some pretty small hot's in them and never had one escape. To make sure I used the fuzzy side of glue backed Velcro to take up any free space between the panes.
I've talked to someone who got tagged by a Juv Rattler that was hiding in the recess below the door. I had a nasty surprize when my CB04 Bothrops asper seemed to be missing, it was over the door and all you could see was an occassional "tongue flick". I now fill these areas with low expantion foam.
The other cage I use that I'm very happy with is a Precision Cage, "Small Size, 24" length x 20" depth x 13-1/4" height". They are well made and very lite and stackable. Plus the owner is a nice guy and easy to work with. I consider the design as nearly escape-proof and flexable in configuration. I say nearly because there is nothing 100% in my opinion, this come close. http://www.precisioncaging.com/
For the record, I have no stake in either of these vendors.
Good Luck,
Al
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by timberrattlesnake89 on September 28, 2005
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I own nine of the and absolutely regrete wasting my money. I absoutly hate them. I have snakes get out of them and I even had locks on the cage too.
Phillip
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by Frawgg on September 28, 2005
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I am not understanding what you mean by the recess above & below the door. Is it that one's line of vision cannot percieve wether a snake is stretched out along the front of the cage below the sliding glass door? Is there some kind of "lip" above the door that snakes can recess into? Is this due to the stackable molding design? Do you know if the manufacturer has addressed these problems? I keep small fossorial elapids & these snakes rarely climb so I am not as concerned above the door as below it. From what I percieve you are telling me, is that there is ample space between the floor of the cage to the bottom of the sliding glass door to provide sufficient burrowing media. Why not install a lockable one piece sliding glass door that can either slide left or right? I will look into those other cages you mentioned. Thanks for the replies!!
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by dendroaspis1 on September 28, 2005
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Frawwg
There is a sizeable lip below and above the front glass. I saw that when vision cages came out and would not waste my money on their cages for that one reason.
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by Phobos on September 29, 2005
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There is ample space for burrowing animals. To my knowledge they have not fixed the problem as re-designing the molds would be very expensive. Yes, you could call it a BIG lip, 2 x 2 inches square that runs the length of the front of the cage, so you could hide a big ol'e nasty snake in this lip.
Al
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by Frawgg on September 29, 2005
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Thanks for all the replies! I don't think I will go with Vision cages but the Precision cages look like a better choice. What materials are the Precisions' doors made from (Plexiglass?)? Browsing around their web-site, I didn't see any designs that incorporated a sliding door feature, only hinged. Do they or can they make a cage with this feature?
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by MoccasinMan on September 29, 2005
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Vision makes excellent cages. I have many. They are, however, much better suited for medium to large constrictors. Plastic storage tubs w/ latching lids are a suitable and inexpesive route. There is also the oldschool standby... glass aquaria with secure lids. They are fantastic for exhibits and make visual inspection safe and easy. The problem is they are heavy and difficult to clean. As far as a top notch commercial enclosure... they all have their quirks. I use plastic storage tubs from Iris for my hots.
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by Phyllobates on September 29, 2005
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I have a Vision Arboreal Cage Model #322. 36" wide - 23" deep - 21" high. I find this cage great for my Mangroves. For my Gaboons and EDB’s I use Neodesha cages only. As far as burrowing species I have Eastern Corals, Cape Coral Cobras and Savu Pythons all love to burro and for them I use a 40 - breeder 36” wide – 18” deep – 16” high critter cage all Locked Tops and Keyed Access.
http://www.all-glass.com/products/cages/
Albie
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