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by Az on March 16, 2006
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Hi all
was watching a programme last night called kick asse miracles. Just wanted to bring your attention to the most amazing ten year old i have ever seen. His name was tack. His job after he finnished school in thiland where he lived was to perform a show using a venomous King Cobra that had still got its fangs in etc. The fact the i read these snakes can stand up to 6ft tall sacres me let alone a 4 ft ten year old. The presenter was curious as to hwat would happen if he got bit and this is where me quetions comes in Tacks boss said they use a herb called a Wongpieyul i hope you can pronounce that i aint a clue on the spelling. The say they rip it out the ground cut it open and rub the juice on the bitten area and within hours they feel better. Have any of you ever heard of this herb before and can you pass judgment on if it works or not. Its name means ironically king of snakes i think. Thanks for your time hope your all well Aaron
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by toddg on March 16, 2006
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I'm sure the herb is particuly effective on dry bites! I am skeptical however, as to it's effectiveness on actual envenomations, as well as King cobras rising to 6 feet off the ground!
While I can't attest to this, I understand that 48" is about as high as they can rise.
As far as the herb thing goes... according to Harry W. Greene, "King cobra bites can be life threatening within miniutes" so I don't think feeling better a few hours later is an option... unless ofcourse, felling better means dead!
toddg
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by static416 on March 17, 2006
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I don't see how rubbing anything on the bite location would be effective. I mean the venom is in your bloodstream at that point, not sitting on the surface of your skin.
I think alot of people put way too much faith in these "natural" cures to ailments, almost every time some popular herb or plant is investigated for supposed medicinal properties its found that they aren't any more effective than a placebo. The echinacea craze and subsequent disproval is a good example of this.
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by ianb on March 17, 2006
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I had so much faith in echinaceau to. Oh, well, I'll still pop it when sickness is in the air.
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by ginny on March 18, 2006
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I saw a programme recently about snake bite fatalities and it featured a snake performer from thailand who was killed during his perfomance by one of his cobras. This guy would amaze tourists buy free handling cobras (sod that for a laugh!) up to 6 at a time. Im not sure what species they were but he would handle all the snakes at the same time basically juggling them in order to entertain tourists. He would sit on the floor and pass them through his hands and apparently he knew his snakes quite well.This is qite a common thing in asia apparently but come on guys who in their right mind would partake in an obviously dangerous and life threatening passtime.Getting tagged is only a matter of time and on this occasion one of his cobras was not happy at all and kept trying to retreat back into a wooden tube that the snakes were kept in. The guy kept on grabbing the snake to tryto maintain his performance until the snake eventually retaliated and showed classic warning behaviour and bit him. The tourists witnissed the bite and were quite alarmed to see the guy carry on the show even though he started to show signs of envenomation by sweating heavily and becoming dissorientated but still he carried on!! Eventually after some time his mother intervened and led him away to the back garden to a herb of some kind growing there where he began to chew the leaves and rub them on the bitten limb.Anyway the guy lost the ability to breath due to the neurotoxic efect of the venom and died soon afterwards. Hospital staff were unable to revive him and could only regret that hospital attention wasnt administered sooner. The herb had helped him in the past after snakebite but this was probably due to the fact that he must have only recieved dry bite with only minute taces of venom. The herb probably has some effect on mild skin irritations of any kind and not just snakebites but for this guy to believe that it could reverse the effect of a full envenomation from elapids was pure ignorance, its that simple. dont get me wrong im no expert on venomous snakes being new to the hobby but this just goes to show that when dealing with venomous snakes you should NEVER forget just how potentially dangerous these animals are and should never be free handled.
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by cottonmouth on March 18, 2006
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static416 is dead right. The venom is already on it's way through your system. The plant crap is just on the surface ....
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