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by LarryDFishel on December 22, 2006
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Yeah, I agree with kacz that genetic diversity (even though limited) would be enough incentive to go sexual again.
Also, the larger size of the males would seem like an advantage in trying to unseat rival species on a new island.
Back to the clones. After a few generations, all the offspring in the last generation (,ore or less) of one line would be genetically identical to eachother, but not to the ubermother, because she would have carried recessive genes that are lost in the offspring. In the cases of simple recessive genes, the traits expressed would be identical, butt he DNA would be different. Of course not all genes are simple recessive/dominant, so matbe it would take longer than I was thinking...
An army of Rosie O'Donnel clones? Now I won't be able to sleep tonight!
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by roadkruzer on December 22, 2006
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I'm not sure if this is the same komodo but this article says that the lizard has NEVER been in contact with a male.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061220/sc_nm/britain_dragons_dc
Jason Clark
SnakesAreUs.com
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by GREGLONGHURST on December 22, 2006
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First I have heard of parthenonic P. m. bivittatus. That's just what we need! Got problems enough with the d$#n things colonizing the south end of the Everglades..now I find out they can do it alone. Sheesh!
Merry Christmas to all you guys & gals. ~~Greg~~
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by Cro on December 22, 2006
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Greg, are you saying that you do not want Burmese Pythons to become as common as Cuban Tree Frogs and Cottonmouths in South Florida?
Think of how much fun the out-of-state herpers could have road cruising Tamiami Trail or Alligator Alley, and finding 8 or 10 Burmese Pythons each night, LOL !
Happy Hollidays to everyone here!
Best Regards JohnZ
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by GREGLONGHURST on December 22, 2006
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John: There are some exotic herps in some areas here, that are more common than any native herp has ever been. I recently saw just under fifty green iguanas in a one hour period. SFWMD employees have dispatched as many as a dozen bivs in one day. The most common 2 species of lizards in my yard are Anolis sagrei & Basiliscus vittatus. The 2 most common frogs on my property are the greenhouse & the Cuban tree. Giant toads are more common pretty much in 4 counties than any other toad. Red-eared sliders don't out-number red-bellied turtles yet, but that could happen as well. I can't change it, but I don't have to be happy with it.
Merry Christmas. ~~Greg~~
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by Cro on December 22, 2006
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Greg, I hate seeing all the introduced exotics also, but like you said, it is difficult to change.
Walt Kelly`s Pogo said it best..."We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by kacz on December 22, 2006
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Perhaps it’s best to end this thread by combining its elements. May all our children go to bed on Sunday night with visions, if not of sugarplums, at least of fatherless feral Komodo dragons as the top predator in South Florida!
Merry Christmas and a healthy New Year,
Paul M. Kaczmarczik
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