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by levi3 on August 20, 2002
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I live in N.central WVA. I have looked for coppers all spring and summer with no sucess. I have talked to older people around and they all say coppers used to be way more abundant than they are now. What do you think would be some reasons for this population decline?? Now the timber rattlesnake is a different story. All the game biologists say they are in decline but I disagree. I have NO trouble finding timbers,in fact I would say they are plentiful. Any info would be appreciated! Thanks for your time; Ray
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by jared on August 20, 2002
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Its strange you say that.Many of the researchers i have worked with recently are noticing the same thing, they are finding strong populations of horridus and not finding coppers, or vice versa. Also how are you hunting coppers? it is a little different than horridus. most caneys and timbers i have seen checking stumpholes, burn sites, rock piles, and under tin. while this whole year the only coppers i have found have been captured on dirt roads at night road cruising. either way both species should still be fairly common in your location (but your correct in that timbers are more common near harpers ferry, and that area of wv) and you should probably check the dirt roads after a nice hot day.
jared w
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by TAIPAN78 on August 20, 2002
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Id say check the lower ground. Though A.c.mokasen(the ssp in your range)is well known for being found in high rocky areas, if the horridus are everywhere in the rocks, maybe the chunkheaqds have moved down to the lower land to avoid competition. Who knows really. I do know that A.c.mokasen is very adaptable and can be found in both situation wereas the horridus seem almost restricted to the higher ground(atleast in PA were I have some experince). Id take Jared advise and search dirt roads at night, along with blk top but I would concentrate my cruiseing the lower, wetter land if there is any.
Welp, I hope this helps!
All the best,
Jeremy
P.S Jared, you have found Timbers under ground cover before? (Keep in mind im seperateing the 2 forms). Ive never heard of them being found really under tin and such, mostly umgonst the rocks. Where are you guys studieing horridus at(If you can disclose the info here)? Western NC? Thanks good buddy and I missed ya at the last burg man! Hope all is well.
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by jared on August 21, 2002
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Yeah us copper keepers gotta stick together. i should have been more specific, the timbers i have seen were in rock piles, caneys under tin. Most Timbers in Nc are closer to hanging rock st park and further west, you can find "dirty" Or caney timber intergrades on pilot mtn. i see some nice caneys in uwharries and further south towards the sandhills. Hell, ya can even find pigmys in the uwharries, even though no range map shows it. There is about to be major data released in the next year reguarding herp populations here in NC and species (its a compilation of 20+ yrs of research). How them cantils doin? mine are damn pigs, i have so much agkistrodon the mouse supply is really killing my budget, but come the sc show i should have lots of stuff on my table to move. let me know if your gonna be there, we can shoot the shit bout coppers. you havin any luck in VA this year with um? I am loving my new NC location:)
jared w
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