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by Cro on September 10, 2007
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Ok Joe. Don`t blame you, as it is not good to stress long term captive animals, or do anything to encourage them to bite.
I can probably find a Zoo Reptile Department or venomous importer / dealer that is willing to help conduct an experiment on gloves made of this new material.
Also, I might ship some to Dr. Fry and see if he is interested in repeating his experiment with them.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Kingetula on September 11, 2007
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John,
Let us know how it goes. I would like to get some gloves and if these that you talk about do really well I would like to get some.
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by Cro on September 11, 2007
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Scott, the gloves I am planning on evaluating are made of a new material called Hexarmor, which uses 3 layers of tiny overlapping plates that are supposed to provide the highest degree of puncture resistance.
The idea is that a fang would hit one of the plates, or, since the plates are closly spaced, would hit a plate below if it made it through the top layer. The company makes many gloves that offer only partial protection, however, they have one model designed for veternary use, and I have ordered a pair for testing. They cost about $150.00 a pair, and have to be ordered from one of their distributors.
Because they are a new company, they are very interested in feedback that might help improve the product.
The only model I am considering is the "Hercules R8E" Item # 3180.
You can check them out at :
http://www.hexarmor.com/products/item/needlestick-resistant/hercules-r8e/
After you take a look at the gloves, go to their home page and watch the videos that explain the technology.
Anyone interested in purchasing a pair can contact their distributor at:
http://www.sharpesafety.com/catalog/product-display.php3?ID=1127
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Cro on October 4, 2007
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Scott, I recieved the gloves a couple of weeks ago. They are quite flexable, and the small plastic disks that cover the surface seem quite tough.
So far, I have been using a hypodermic syrynge to try to puncture them, and have not made it through them yet. The needle holes where they were sewn are of course an concern, but so far they are not letting a needle through.
What I plan to do next is repeat the test Dr. Fry did, however, I am thinking about filling the latex liner gloves with ballistic gelatin instead of frozen water. This might give more of a flesh like texture, and since it would not be cold, it could also help get pit-vipers to bite it more readily.
I have a 5 1/2 foot Lowland Timber (Canebrake) that should easily be convinced to help test the gloves, and a good friend who ownes a Serpentarium said he would be willing to let their big King Cobra chew on the gloves for a while.
I will try to update folks here as I continue the testing.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by Kingetula on July 24, 2009
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Thought I would bring this up again and see if there has been a known bite while wearing these gloves yet. So far so good on my end however I must admit I have not fully put my trust in them 100% yet.
I did talk to someone who swears by them. We exchanged stories about testing needles and grabing cacti and the gloves failing both tests however fangs curve and are larger than both the neddles and cacti we tested on. I believe it was JohnZ who posted a link to a video of these gloves where all sorts of snakes were being tested and from what this guy told me he has tested them out the samwe way with no problems.
Just curious however if there has been a bite through these gloves yet.
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by Cro on July 24, 2009
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Scott,
I have heard of one bite from a mamba, where the fangs went through the gloves, and pierced a finger.
Fortunately, it turned out to be a dry bite.
The best thing is to use them as added protection, and never consider them to be "snake proof."
I also wonder what ever happened to the fellow who worked with NASA with materials that were used in space suits ? He posted that he was trying to design snake "proof" gloves that would be very thin and flexible, and very resistant to puncture. I can see NASA needing something like that. Perhaps they have some exotic materials that will eventually make their way to venomous reptile keepers?
I still might set up a experiment with the hex armor gloves with a latex glove filled with ballistic gelatin inside of the glove. One of my friends who owns a serpentarium has said he would let his snakes chew on the gloves. I just kind of got disappointed after I found that small guage needles easily went through the gloves. I did purchase enough gelatin to conduct the experiment though. Just need to mix it up someday, and set up the experiment.
It is interesting that Midwest is now selling the hex armor gloves, and that you can go online and see a lot of folks using them.
Best Regards
John Z
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