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Missouri Venomous Law
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by BTW on October 29, 2007
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I have emailed the Missouri Department of Conversation and called them still waiting on a return answer. So I figured in the mean time I'll throw my question out here.
can anyone help me figure out the Missouri Law on Venomous ownership? I've heard people say that you must posses a Class 2 Breeders Permit, but I've read the Wildlife code front to back and seems that only applies to Native Venomous Reptiles such as the Timber Rattle snake, Pygmy Rattlesnake, Copperhead and cottonmouth. No where Does it say Exotics. It does say however you may posses and sell with out a permit any reptile non native to Missouri. Any Help would be greatly appericated as I'm new here and just want to keep everything legal.
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Brad
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by MoccasinMan on October 29, 2007
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Here are the current regs in MO.:
Missouri State Laws Governing Private Possession of Exotic Animals
View Map• MO. REV. STAT. §578.023 - Keeper of dangerous wild animals must register animals, exceptions - penalty.
1. No person may keep any lion, tiger, leopard, ocelot, jaguar, cheetah, margay, mountain lion, canada lynx, bobcat, jaguarundi, hyena, wolf, or coyote, or any deadly, dangerous, or poisonous reptile, in any place other than a properly maintained zoological park, circus, scientific, or educational institution, research laboratory, veterinary hospital, or animal refuge, unless such person has registered such animals with the local law enforcement agency in the county in which the animal is kept.
2. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a class C misdemeanor.
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by MoccasinMan on October 29, 2007
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Looks like you only have to regiter with local law enforcement... whether they actually accept registrations or not, I don't know.
Andrew
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by BTW on October 29, 2007
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MoccasinMan,
thanks for reply, Its kinda of a pain to find some of the regs. I contacted my local law enforcement Agencey they weren't aware that I would need to register with them..hows the for interesting, they were going to get back with me on it.
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Brad
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by MoccasinMan on October 29, 2007
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often these laws are vague and nebulous at best. many times they call for registration or permits but do not provide the administrative infrastructure nessesary. stay on them, be professional and persistant.
Andrew
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by BTW on October 29, 2007
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Yea sounds like a typical goverment operation no different than the way the Fire Service operates at times. I def plan on keeping on top of it, as its my ultimate goal to start up a reptile zoo in my area, Ive set almost a half mill. aside for it so once i get with some people with experince Im gonna give it a go!
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Brad
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by venombill on October 29, 2007
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I went to the Newton County Missouri Sheriffs office and began to tell them why I was there and what animals I keep. They told me they had no paperwork, no knowledge of the law, and didn't seem to care. To protect myself, I typed a list up of what I house along with a statement that says they are fully aware of the animals in my house. I then took it back and had it signed by a deputy. The real sheriff was informed I was there and why but was too busy to come out to sign the paper. (He has since been replaced) I have also talked to the local Conservation department and they have no problems with my animals and often refer people to me for relocations and to Scouts and Schools for education. To have a Missouri native hot you will need a class 2 Breeders permit, and you must have a receipt that says you bought the snake from a breeder and didn’t take it from the wild. The permit is $250 a year and requires you to take a test on venomous snakes. By having the permit, you are subject to random inspections for what they call proper husbandry and proper receipts. I opt not to get the permit. I can keep a King Cobra, but a copperhead is illegal. Doesn't quite make since. I have heard you can keep up to 5 native nonvenomous species, but I haven’t had that confirmed, so I choose not to take the chance. I would hate to have my collection confiscated, make the 6 o’clock news and the headline in the paper over a Speckled King or Black Rat. It wouldn’t read "Missouri Man guilty of a well maintained collection of rare and exotic reptiles", It would more likely say "100's of Deadly Poisonous Pythons in Basement"
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by BTW on October 30, 2007
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Yes, I think that the Wildlife code states, and dont quote me on this as I'm going by memory right now..
3 CSR 10-9.110 section 1A says that a MAX of 5 Native Species not listed in 3 CSR 10-4.110 section 4 or 3 CSR 10-9.240 expect endangered species, hellbenders or alligator snapping turtles may be possessed by a resident of Missouri but not bought or sold.
I know that 3 CSR 10-9.240 list only the Timber Rattle snake, Cottonmouth, Copperhead, pygmy and massasauga rattlesnakes.
and I dont think 3 CSR 10-4.110 applies to snakes. but someone would have to look for sure.
Further more, 3 CSR 10-9.110 Section 2 states that reptiles non native to Missouri maybe possessed, transported, exhibited, bought and sold with out permit as long as they are not Federally endangered or listed in 3 CSR 10-4.117 or 3 CSR 10-9.240.
and if once again i remember right there are not any prohibited snakes in 3 CSR 10-4.117 and the only ones listed in 3 CSR 10-9.240 are the above mentioned native venomous snakes.
Now I do now the only other thing I can locate pertaining to venomous snakes in the Wildlife code is
3 CSR 10-9.220 section 5D, Venomous reptiles shall be transported in a strong escape proof enclosure that can withstand high impacts. Must have owners full name, address, telephone and species name, and labeled VENOMOUS.
Im pretty sure Everything is A-ok as long as I don't have 1 of the 5 native venomous species to Missouri, Im going to again try and contact my local conservation agent and confirm this... Are they any venomous keepers in the Kansas city Area?
Thanks again for the help
Brad
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by stormnut on October 30, 2007
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Here's a link someone sent to me from the repticzone website. I had asked a similar question about NC laws on keeping venomous snakes. There's a link you can also click on in Missouri to have some more definitive questions answered. Hope it helps.
Rick
http://www.dhs3.com/looserooexotics/venlaws.html
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by MoccasinMan on October 30, 2007
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That is an excellent resource, however it is quite dated. Many laws have changed in states like Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky and Washington. These states have all adopted a very restrictive piece of legislation authored and promoted by an extreme Animal Rights group known as the Animal Protection Institute or API. We defeated them here in NC but they have had a great deal of success in states that gave no organized oposition.
Andrew
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