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RE: Rear - fanged ?
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by JSargent on November 13, 2007
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the "rear fangs" are popper teeth....toads puff up and these teeth release the air so they can be swallowed...it is my thought that the mild venom people may have experienced with a bite most likely came from the toad it ate before the bite occured...everyone knows toads produce a venom on their backs that is excreted during the feeding process...just my opinion....
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by SnakeEyes2006 on November 13, 2007
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There has been many debates on this, but I have read somewhere of a guy who had a Western Hognose that was eating mice and anoles fed by him and it took a liking to his hand, and his hand and arm swelled up really bad, and turned black, but that was it.
I have a Eastern Hognose that my cousin caught and so far he only eats toads, but now that it is getting cold, i have not been seeing any toads, so i may have to try a mouse?! But I have not given him a chance to take my hand. just don't get bit!! By anything!!
just my two cents worth.
Shawn
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RE: Rear - fanged ?
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by earthguy on November 13, 2007
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Many people forget our little crowned snake (Tantilla coronata). It is rear fanged and venomous. To answer your next question, their venom is presumed to be not mediacally significant (even if they could somehow manage to get their rear fangs on you). We catch them around our house fairly frequently (along with a few other small terrestrial snakes). This is one 'venomous' snake that I don't mind my kids catching and releasing.
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RE: as far as venom
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by Cro on November 14, 2007
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I had a thumb pierced once by one of those "toad poppers" in a large melanistic eastern hognosed snake.
The pain was immediate, and there was much bleeding from the wound that would suggest anti-coagulant action from the venom.
The swelling went past my wrist, and half way up my arm, and the pain and swelling took a couple of weeks to go away.
It was very similar to what I would have expected from a copperhead bite.
I do not think the symptoms I experienced were from bufo-toxins left in the mouth of the hognose snake, but from its toxic saliva.
It is difficult to get bit that way from a hognosed snake, this one actually struck and ingulfed my thumb, and pierced it. Most of the time, hognosed snakes are mild mannered and do not strike. However, some do.
Be carefull with large ones.
Best Regards JohnZ
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