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by chrisreid43 on November 21, 2007
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I'm trying to decide on my first rattler and I don't know what to get. If so, can you tell me which one of these is the least venomous and has the best temper.
PRAIRIE RATTLESNAKE
DUSKY PIGMY RATTLESNAKE
W. MASSASAUGA RATTLESNAKE
MOJAVE RATTLESNAKE
CANEBRAKE RATTLESNAKE
SOUTHERN PACIFIC RATTLESNAKE
SOUTHWEST SPECKLED RATTLESNAKE
SIDEWINDER
WESTERN DIAMONDBACK
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by Peter84Jenkins on November 21, 2007
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Most People will ask you to fill out your profile before giving you any advice. I can see that yours is but it looks as if you are 12 and have no business with hots. I am not trying to be rude but the herp particularly the venomous herp community is under heavy fire from activist trying to remove our rights to keep hot herps privately. My honest opinion is that I only saw ONE rattlesnake on your list that would be “acceptable” as a first rattler and that is the pigmy but even they can be tricky at times. If you get a Mojave or a WDB as your first rattlesnake than you are a fool point blank. Also, if I recall correctly canebrakes and or timbers are illegal to keep in NC. But don’t quote me! There are others here who can quote laws much better than me. You put 7-11 as your birth date what is your age? Like I said judging by the way your profile is filled out you seem much to young.
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by chrisreid43 on November 21, 2007
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I know the pygmy is the best, but I was wondering mainly about the temper part. We've had hots before, but not rattlers, thats why I asked. To tell you the truth, I'm only 16. But I've been keeping snakes since I was 7. I know most of them are not the best for starters, but this is my first RATTLER
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by Peter84Jenkins on November 21, 2007
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Ah 16 years young. I am glad you have snake experience but keeping at 7 hardly constitutes experience points towards hot keeping.
Pigmy tempers can vary from nasty little pugnacious bastards to relatively calm and easy to deal with. There venom is vary caustic and not to be underestimated because of there small size. Might I suggest locating a mentor?
Dont give the anti-herp people ammo to shoot our hobby down be safe.
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by LarryDFishel on November 21, 2007
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>>We've had hots before...
Maybe if you elaborated a bit on who "we" are. If one of your parents, for instance, is a hot keeper the answers might be a bit different.
Also, what other venomous have YOU had experience with?
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by chrisreid43 on November 22, 2007
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"We" are me, my brother, and the people I work for who have been keeping them for a long time. As for me, I have worked with some of the hots "we" have had. I know I'm not the most experienced person in the world, and I ain't trying to give the hot keepers a bad name, but if I couldn't handle them I wouldn't try.
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by stormnut on November 23, 2007
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Here in NC, it's illegal to possess the Timbers, Canebrakes, and Eastern Diamondbacks unless you can obtain a permit which qualifies you as an educator with a business that's open to the public. People have them, but they're pushing it. As for potency, you definitely don't want to start out with a mojave, WDB, or a prairie rattler as a first one. The sidewinders and pigmy's are typically smaller species but shouldn't be taken lightly. I would have to say a sidewinder, but remember they're from the desert area so you would have to have a setup that it's acclimated to living in.
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by rthom on November 23, 2007
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Pigmy's and Massasauga's can be very "runny" on the hook and as said before a bite is nothing to take lightly.
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by GREGLONGHURST on November 24, 2007
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Before you & your parents make this decision, I recommend that all of you read the article on this board titled "I Should Be Dead".
At the age of 16, you are not financially responsible for what occurs to you. Your parents could easily be put into an extremely uncomfortable position if you were bitten. The relatively new Cro Fab antivenin has one big plus over the old Wyeth, in that it is not made from horse blood, & therefore will not cause allergic reactions. Two major drawbacks are that it takes more antivenin to treat a bite properly, and it is much more expensive per unit.
My advice to guys your age has been to wait until you are living under your own roof, paying your own bills & are financially able to not only afford the snakes & their upkeep, but the antivenin as well.
~~Greg~~
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