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by yoyoing on March 16, 2008
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Why hasn't PA "gone down". Lots of criticism has been leveled against the reptile shows there for years. The way they are described is that kids are leaving with green mambas and gaboons in little deli cups. This would be frightening if true, but nothing has ever happened as a result. What is the story with this?
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by Cro on March 16, 2008
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Most of the vendors at the Hamburg Reptile Shows are very carefull about who they sell to, and knowing if the person is a qualified reptile keeper.
Vendors tend to police themselves, as they know that one bad vendor can ruin all of their livelyhoods. Vendors who break rules have been banned from attending these shows on many occasions.
Stories like kids bringing home green mambas are mostly made up by HSUS and PETA folks who want to see the shows shut down.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by yoyoing on March 16, 2008
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Thanks John,
I read those reports on reptile forum such as this, with the doomsday predictions. Happy to hear those may be wrong.
Jim
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by tigers9 on March 16, 2008
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PA is going down, this year PA wildlife department attempted to ban some birds and non human primates.
Bird people showed up in full armor and had birds removed, primates are now banned, so watch out in PA, more background info here
http://www.rexano.org/StatePages/Pennsylvania_Frame.htm
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by Cro on March 16, 2008
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The banning of non human primates is an interesting topic.
When I was 15 to 17 years old, I worked at the only pet store in in Georgia that would import and sell monkeys.
We would sell two or three Wooley, Capution, and Spider Monkeys each year.
We had a Cinnamon Ringtail Capution Monkey that lived in the store for years. At the time, it was cool to have a store monkey, that really liked the people who worked there.
However, looking back on that, I think that keeping an Monkey for a pet is an bad idea. Most people are not ready for the commitment required for a pet that can live 35 years. Also, when Monkeys reach sexual maturity, a whole host of problems crop up. The males grow these big canine teeth that have to be pulled, or else they can cause a wicked bite. The banning of non-human primates might be an good idea. Perhaps monkeys should be living free in jungles.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by tigers9 on March 16, 2008
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PA had ban on monkey pets, now they added another lawyer, for anybody non AZA, you can not buy/import more from now on, even if you are USDA, you can keep what you have but can not get more.
As for the comment by CRO, to monkey people snakes might make bad pets, so please, do NOT do thsi divinding game, I think monkey would make a horrible pet for me personally and drive me absolutely insane, but I also dislike human kids, and to me monkeys are just hairy kids, but if for some people monkeys make good pets, they shall have the right to do it and not be judged, because if you judge them, you ate openign yourself for them judging you for having snakes.
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<<The Commission is also proposing to amend §137.1 to
prohibit the importation, possession, sale and release of all non-human
primates and the Conure-Nanday, sometimes referred to as the Blackhooded
Parakeet, in response to human health/safety and wildlife habitat
health purposes.
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by Cro on March 16, 2008
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I am not trying to devide the exotic animals groups, and it is not a game. I am just stating my opinion on the subject, from having experience in the past working with monkeys as pets.
Many people who purchase "cute" baby monkeys are tired of them after a couple of years. We did not sell monkeys to just anyone who wanted one, we tried really hard to make the people understand the commitment needed, and they waited months for them to be imported.
I can remember that some of the folks who purchased monkeys brought them back for us to try to sell for them after a short time. And it was much more difficult finding homes for those older monkeys. Many wound up in cages in traveling circuises. Not much of a life for an animal that should be swinging through the tree tops.
While there are some folks out there that can make the commitment to keep an "hairy kid" with an IQ of 30 for 35 years, from my experience, most folks cant.
Also, I see primates as a higher life form than a reptile. They are in many ways so human-like, it is almost like folks keeping a distant cousin as an pet....
Best Regards JohnZ
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