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by newguy on October 1, 2008
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Is it possible/legal for a regular citizen to obtain/keep antivenin at home?If so where can it be obtained from? How much does it cost? what is the best way to store it safely? I am new at this and dont't have any reptiles yet.
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by Crotalusssp on October 1, 2008
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It is possible and legal though it will most likely require a prescription. Cost varies by manufacturer, as does relative ease of attainment. Storage is typically refrigeration with shelf lives that vary also. I have seen some shelf lives up to 5 years, but I do not believe that is the norm. There are many on here that will have more information than I on this topic. You may want to search the forum for additional information. If you give species you may want to keep, this will help give more specific information also.
Charles
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by tj on October 1, 2008
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"It is possible and legal though it will most likely require a prescription"
You won't get a prescription for anything but CroFab. And since a large number of hospital's carry it, it's a moot point to keep your own and risk the expense and have it expire. I don't know anyone that has their own CroFab. It's readily available and doesn't make sense to do so.
If you want SAIMR (gaboon AV) or any other exotic AV, you'll need to get import permits from the USDA and a doctor that will be a sponsor for you for an IND permit. I think there is a download on this site on how to do so.
AV will vary from genus to genus and country to country. SAIMR polyvalent isn't very expensive, but SAIMR boomslang monovalent is. Australian AV is expensive, as is CroFab, but many of the Latin American AV's are very cheap.....and worth gold for the price. Hope this helps a little.
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by Buzztail1 on October 1, 2008
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FDA permits for permits 1571 and 1572 along with instructions on how to fill them out can be found in our File Library (link below).
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Karl
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/Permits%20and%20Applications
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by KenoshaMark on October 1, 2008
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"And since a large number of hospital's carry it, it's a moot point to keep your own and risk the expense and have it expire."
I don't know the answer but is this true for hospitals that don't have any venomous snakes still native to their area? What may be commonly kept across the southern US may not be as common the farther north you go. If you are going to depend on a hospital to get it in case of a bite, you had better know in advance exactly which hospitals do have it.
Sorry to bring this issue up if your original statement is true. But it wouldn't surprise me that area hospitals might be trying to cut costs by not keeping cro-fab on hand since it would very rarely be used in our area.
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by LadyBloodRose on October 2, 2008
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it does save alota time toknow who has what an have that information kept with your bite protocols incase something happens. That way your not fumbling an trying to rember weither the hospital 3 counties over has what you need or if the one down the street has it. Whats that saying "Time is Tissue"?
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by Crotalusssp on October 2, 2008
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I believe anyone responsibly keeping venomous animals should have a plan in place and communicated with others (family, friends, health care professionals if possible). Having your own antivenin when keeping exotics is also a very desirable, responsible practice, though may be expensive.
Charles
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by FSB on October 2, 2008
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I would say that it's a very good plan to check with your local hospital first and make sure they do stock cro-fab. Even in Patrick County, where copperheads are at least common enough to be a potential issue, and timber rattlesnakes are encountered (and killed) with regularity, the local hospital stocks no antivenom. The closest supply is in Roanoke, VA, about 2 hours away. However, it is nice to see someone exploring the availabilty and acquisition of antivenom before actually obtaining any snakes!
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by tj on October 3, 2008
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"I don't know the answer but is this true for hospitals that don't have any venomous snakes still native to their area?"
I'm gonna have to say yes and no. Not all hospital's are going to carry CroFab, but more than less should if there is a chance for a snakebite case.
Where I live there are no venomous snakes within 35 miles, and there has never been a reported bite by that specific species in NYS. Yet, the hospital where I live does carry CroFab. It's a judgement call on the hospital. They are there to make money, although many don't, and keeping AV that will more than likely never be used is an added expense they don't want to add if there is no reason to.
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