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Corncob and walnut shell as substrate?
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by atwageman on April 26, 2009
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Just curious to see if anyone here is using corncob bedding or crushed walnut shells as substrate for some of their more arid species of snakes in place of sand or gravel?
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by Rob_Carmichael on April 26, 2009
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corn cob is real bad stuff. Tends to be very dusty which can lead to some respiratory issues. Also, when it gets wet (as in, if its ingested) it expands quite a bit which could lead to impaction. I haven't used crushed walnut but probably a better option as long as it doesn't have sharp edges.
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by atwageman on April 26, 2009
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I agree Rob with what your saying about corn cob bedding. It would also most likely be an impaction nightmare too.
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by ssshane on April 26, 2009
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I have never tried the walnut, but I did try the corn cob. The dust factor alone was enough to not try it again. It does in deed swell when wet, but I didn't use it long enough to see if any real problems could arise from either.
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by atwageman on April 26, 2009
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I will stay clear of the corn cob. I'm gonna try the crushed walnut shell. Just ordered a 50 pound bag. I'm gonna try it out with one of my rattlesnakes. The idea here is to try an simulate sand without the weight of sand. I've got a shipment of cages coming in from BARRS hopefully this week, and will set one of those up with the walnut shell. I'll let everyone know if there is any negative impact. No pun intended. lol
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by Cro on April 26, 2009
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I am surprised that the corn cob material is being marketed again for reptile cages.
That junk first came out in the early 1970's, and besides being dusty, and being easily injested by animals, it also often carried weevle like bugs that were feeding on it.
Herpers quickly found out it was a lousey product, and stopped using it.
Now, it seems it is back. Some folks will try to sell all kinds of junk of they can make a buck. And they do not care about the welfare of the animals it is used on.
On the other hand, Walnut Shell is a good substrate product, with a proven track record. I would not hesitate to use it in a cage.
Best Regards
John Z
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by jparker1167 on April 26, 2009
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i have never used those but i have talked to someone before that said they used care fresh bedding for some cobras, i think it was mitch from diamond reptiles i think he posts here now and then maybe he will stop by and correct me if it was not him.
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by AquaHerp on April 26, 2009
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The cob is great for small mammals in a large setting, but not for reptiles.
DH
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by tigers9 on April 26, 2009
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In the past, for dry weather loving herps, I tried crushed oyster shells I bought at feed storess, which i rinsed in water to get rid of the dust.
never had a problem with it, if ingested, just gives your herp extra (natural) calcium
Z
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