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by KingCobraFan on May 7, 2009
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Jon, I bought one of Midwest's collapsible, standard hooks just the other day. It came packaged perfectly, and both extended and locked into position just fine. I plan on taking a trip to India sometime in the first half of 2010, which will be it's "maiden voyage". I'm fully confident it will function perfectly, just like the stationary standard hook, mini hook, and Gentle Giant tongs have for me. You might build good stuff, but if you want to compete with Midwest, you'll need lots of patience waiting to make a dent in their clientele.
Bill Huseth
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by Cro on May 7, 2009
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As Bill has stated, the Midwest Collapsible Standard Hook is a very good product, and is one that is easy to carry on a plane, or keep behind your car seat, or, in your boat or backpack. Of all the hooks that Midwest builds, it is by far my favorite.
And when I say: "cheap $30.00 Midwest Standard Hook," I am NOT saying cheaply made, I am saying cheap in price. $30.00 is a very reasonable price for a light duty cage hook of good quality.
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John Z
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by AquaHerp on May 7, 2009
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I have used Midwest for years. I have never had an issue with any of the products, that is- using them in the manner intended. I have Midwest’s products in every snake room, extraction room, as well as in my home and truck. A few hundred snakes a week pass over these hooks and not a single problem.
If you did indeed get a poorly made or packaged product, send it back. Dana will make good on it.
Once again, read the hook's description and ensure that you are using it within the proper parameters.
DH
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by Buzztail1 on May 7, 2009
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I was over 40 before I got my first professionally made - store-bought hook.
Up until that time, I made my own by following the directions in the front of the Peterson Field Guide.
Unfortunately, hooks made that way are HEAVY.
When I was road cruising with my buddies in California, they all made fun of me with my CroMagnon hook.
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/libraries/showfilepage/24?offset=4
The I met Dana at a Daytona show and I have been using his hooks ever since. I am always happy to see new vendors of hooks made in the US. I have held and tried various knock-offs made in various other parts of the world and have been totally unsatisfied with them. I have held and used a true Furmont Stumpripper and although it was impressive - it is expensive and I do not have need for a hook that sturdy.
Midwest's hooks have managed to fit my every need (so far) and I have been very happy with their quality and customer service. I am always open to trying new hooks, as well as other products. Unfortunately, with the current economy and my choice of career, money to try new things, when I am happy with what I already have, is very hard to come by.
As I said before, I have never heard anyone have a single bad thing to say about your hooks. Everyone has commented on how wonderful they are. I believe that praise is well deserved. But that doesn't make Midwest hooks any worse. They are still well worth every penny that I have invested in them and I still have every Midwest product that I ever purchased - all still functioning properly.
I want your business venture to succeed. I just was trying to point out that unfair and biased comparisons will not help you in the long run.
Keep up the good work and good luck.
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Karl
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by TheFifthDay on May 7, 2009
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I just wanted to ask if anyone else has had these problems... I didn't mean to put down, or try to put down Midwest at all.
I didn't read anything about not using the standard hook for flipping anything, but I guess it's obvious seeing that it's as light weight as it is.
Thanks again,
Jon Short
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by najasuphan on May 8, 2009
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The standard hook is made from 5/16" aluminum isn't it? Why would anyone even try to flip anything with that in the first place?
I don't normally use Midwest hooks but the hooks that I have used have all been good. They all functioned perfectly as they were intended. Maybe you just got a bad one or were using it improperly. I think using a 5/16" aluminum hook to flip anything of weight would definitely qualify as improper use.
There's no doubt that you can make a hook at home to perform just as good as any professionally made hook, but there is a reason why Midwest is the top snake hook company. All of the hooks I use are made by a friend and look exactly like any of the professional hooks; my favorite being a nice titanium one.
-Jamie
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by Cro on May 9, 2009
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Here is the thing, Jon. You need to tell folks that your are building a very stout combination field / cage hook.
And you need to have folks like me, and others who are using your hooks, to tell folks that is a very well made hook (and that it is).
Do not waste your time trying to compare stuff like Midwest standard hooks with your hooks. Let your hooks speak for themselves.
List them on sites, and have good photos of them, and publish reviews of them from folks who have used them.
Do not give a care about Midwest, or what they make. That should not concern you in the least.
You should only be concerned about the hooks YOU make.
Best Regards
John Z
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by Pug on May 10, 2009
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I have a couple of Furmonts that are over 30 years old, and yesterday I ordered some replacement grips from eBay. Other than the grips splitting, the hooks look like new. Both are titanium and stronger than morphine! I have a Midwest field hook that I don't much care for, and recently bought an interesting field hook (eBay, again) that I really like.
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by pdk9Roper on May 10, 2009
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I agree with John and the others, I have made my own for the past 30 years, and the first one I bought was from Midwest Tongs, I got the standard hook and the gentle giant tong, and the way it was packaged and sent was great, the reps at the company were very helpful and polite. I handle with relative ease, the heavy bodied EDB's and Timbers with the Midwest hook with out a problem. I only use it though, for picking up the snake and control while out of the enclosure, like for cleaning and educational programs ect...
I think there is always unique needs that we each have in what we do and how we do it.
I'm glad to hear though, that you are working to improve any product that may be of help in this field of ours and improve safety.
I like the light weight of the Midwest hook, I will say that it did take me alittle time to get used to the gentle giant though, guess I'm just old school LOL.
Keith
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