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RE: CB 2009 2nd Generation (F2) Hybrid Copper X Co
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by CHRIS on September 28, 2009
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Though it may be interesting to some collectors, I would not recomend crossing snakes like this due to the fact that it offers very little scientific value. It also creates a problem when most collectors will not keep the animal confined to there collection. Than it is bounced from one place to another. For the sake of the animals and the study of herpetology, it would be better off not to do it. Chris
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RE: CB 2009 2nd Generation (F2) Hybrid Copper X Co
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by ChuckHurd on September 30, 2009
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Chris,
I can’t speak for all hybrids, but at least for the Copperhead X Cottonmouth, and the Eastern Diamondback X Canebrake, we know that they are occurring in nature. You do not see the scientific value in knowing how those genes splice? How it affects the venom is something that will need to be known. It was long thought the hybrids were sterile, but now that I have proved, beyond the shadow of doubt that they are not, it now becomes a possibility that in the right circumstances a wild population could occur and advance, in essence replacing the separate species in that area. I see need for research! Of course, snakes are not how I earn my living, but several research scientist have been in touch wanting DNA, venom, ect. I think they are very interesting and almost daily I notice something new about them. Plus, they expand the realm of what keepers in “native only” states can work with. Means a lot to states such as KY were people can only keep Copperheads, Cottonmouths, Timbers, and Pygmies. Since the EDB does not go that far north, the EDB X Cane will not work, but the Copper X Cotton is perfectly legal and increases what they can have by 1/5. Also, my friend, they are not easy to produce. If all it took was putting them together, we would be over run with hybrids. It is a science to produce them.
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RE: CB 2009 2nd Generation (F2) Hybrid Copper X Co
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by ChuckHurd on September 30, 2009
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The Second generation Copperhead X Cottonmouth hybrids have had their first shed and the color is really showing through. I have uploaded some post-shed pictures.
http://exoticanimalforums1.freeforums.org/post3955.html#p3955
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RE: CB 2009 2nd Generation (F2) Hybrid Copper X Co
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by pictigaster1 on September 30, 2009
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Hay chuck every snake hybred has proven fertil every one ever produced .You did prove out the cotton head and mabie others but them damn corn snake people have been crossing those out for 30 years
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RE: CB 2009 2nd Generation (F2) Hybrid Copper X Co
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by ChuckHurd on September 30, 2009
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Archie,
Not the case my friend. No one has proven out the Eastern Diamondback X Canebrake. Many have tried, all have failed. A close friend of mine in FL has tried for over 20 years, and trust me he knows how to breed snakes. People had tried several times on the Copperhead X Cottonmouth, but it was only recently been successful and only with one pair. Perhaps only certain specimens are fertile? That remains to be seen.
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by pictigaster1 on September 30, 2009
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It is not the first time I stand corrected.I was unaware it had been tried so long.
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