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by Bothrops_pictus on May 21, 2003
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If you are a so brave "top dog" why do you post as anonymous? it sounds more like a mut to me; you're just a top dog wannabe who can't even spell correctly his/her own language and have a very limited wordage. Remember one thing, your country is nothing compared to Rome or other empires that fell. You produce nothing but waste and if it wasn't for our "third world countries" you would have choked already in your filth of metane and deadly gases. I don't envy your country, I know it and don't like it. I'd never envy a country where people like Jeffrey Dahmer or Charles Manson are in the streets everyday and half of the population believes in the UFO's and the other half believe that the earth is 6000 years old. Our people maybe poor but we don't idolize people like Charles Manson or the serial killers. Another thing, my ancestors had a culture long before your pirate ancestors were civilized by the romans, if it wasn't for them you'd still be wandering naked in the plains of britain, looting some civilized countries to get some food. If you don't like my country that's ok, just don't come here and don't eat potatoes because they are southamerican. Remember that the next time that you are enjoying your "liberty fries". If you also hate the french just don't use the words from that language (like love, ketchup, reservoir, etc.) and the greek - latin wordage that came through it and try to speak wih the remaing 30% of your language. And why not to destroy the Statue of the Liberty? It's french after all isn't it? just be happy with your government and when you are living in a society like Orwell's 1984 you'll wonder that happened. So, "top mut", like William Spencer said, you have my e mail there, if you wanna continue, write me there, not everyone in this site likes to see these stuff in the fora.
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by Naja_oxiana on May 22, 2003
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If you do or don't agree with what we did over there or one country's foreign policies yadda yadda yadda, I really don't care. To those who protested the war, you were all dead wrong. But thanks for using your freedoms to protest government actions...one of many rights that the Iraqi people didn't have a couple of months ago.
We've found mass graves full of Iraqis who dared to oppose Saddam's regime--or one in their family opposed the regime. 2/5, just before I left Iraq, found a mass grave which forensics experts concluded was full of Kuwaitis. I assume that these are among the 600 missing Kuwaitis from the Iraqi invasion 12 years ago. I've met people who Saddam imprisoned for 20 years because they dared to publicly speak against him. I don't know if it's been reported here, but we found the mobile chemical weapons laboratories that saddam didn't have. I've personally seen a number of NBC capable missiles. I'm not sure how much has been reported on over here or exactly how much I'm allowed to tell, but I think that we were right on the tail of the hiding of NBC materials. Yep...we're the bad guys alright. We were in the wrong.
Bothrops, if you're opposed to what we did, nobody really cares. This is the USA and you have every right to your own opinion--no matter how wrong you may be. Nobody forced you to respond to my post or to anyone else. I suggest that you might consider simply ignoring a thread if it doesn't really concern you or your interests.
LCpl Roger Hallman, USMC
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by Bothrops_pictus on May 22, 2003
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This is really stupid, really, all I did was to tell that this was not a war site. Now, I use my liberties because I don't live in your country, we don't live in a total state of paranoia where the government is the big brother and where someone can get life in jail for the ethnic aspect or religion in "the land of liberty". What you have seen in Iraq was nothing compared to the orange agent, to somalia, to all the places your country has invaded and now you wonder why the civilized world oposses to you and only a few countries support you because you give them money or stuff like mercenaries, like the mercenaries you used in the wars (because someone who goes and only gets the citizenship when comes back alive is not a soldier by definition, is a mercenary). Fortunately not everyone in your country thinks like you, some people actually use their liberty of Thinking, you may say what you want, after all you are a soldier, a machine trained to destroy and obey, that's all. As I said to another user, I joined here to learn from scientists specially, you are not one of them. As Garcia Marquez, the Nobel Prize winner said, it feels great to think you can do whatever you want but it isn't so cool when the bomb explodes in your backyard and YOU live in fear, right? I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein or associates are ok, they are pricks but also George Bush and if 9 11 was a hell (and I'm really sorry about those people) try to think what was Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, and so on. You scream like pigs about the weapons, well, show them to the world. If there were any weapons surely it was the ones your government gave Saddam when they sponsored the genocide in Iran. If you really want peace in the world why don't you make a Tibet Freedom Operation and free Tibet from China? because you know the chinese would wipe you out of the face of the earth. It's very brave to pick on the small ones right? As W. Spencer said and I said to anonymous, if you wanna continue, feel free to write to my e mail because I'm pretty sure that the rest are already tired and sick of this discussion.
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by cottonmouth on May 22, 2003
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The US is actually leading the world in protecting the rain forest, which we are constantley battling you folks from taking every tree and animal that lives in it. Almost every endangered animal that still exists is because of the US, so save that speach Mr Peru. I love South America and all that come with it, but you have to reconize that this world stays intact because of us!
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by Bothrops_pictus on May 22, 2003
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Thats not true Mr USA, your country gives nothing compared to Europe for example, considering the income of the countries and how much they spend to protect the environment your country is one of the three who gives less. Do you think it's a good deed to give some money to save the rainforest? After all, you produce 65% of the toxic emissions of the world when you are only the 6% of the world population. China and the whole asia produce less waste. Americans produce a waste of 1.8 kgs per person everyday and waste oil and everything and if it wasn't for the rainforest this world would have an atmosphere of toxic gases. More species have become exctinct for your actions than the ones you have saved. I could list like a thousand animals and plants exctinct in the USA only. I think you should get more information before saying something without knowing the actual facts. So if you want me to save the speech, give me some facts, not just a repetition of what the official media say.
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by Bothrops_pictus on May 22, 2003
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I forgot, I don't have to recognize what you say, simply because that's not true. Why don't you better recognize that withouth southamerica (and also parts of central america and africa) you'd have no air to breathe? Also you'd have less oil to waste if it wasn't for Venezuela and Mexico and surely you wouldn't have a lot of that food and stuff that goes to the US everyday from these countries. The world of course is not the same because you are here. We have still places where no plants grow because of your chemicals, radiation, military waste, etc. so don't give me the maniquean explanation of "we are the saviors of the world and the rest are the bad guys"
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by Bothrops_pictus on May 22, 2003
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Such a mature response mr. USA, are you in the elementary school? If that makes you happy ok, you rule, you are the masters of the universe and you are absolutely right. Maybe when you grow up you'll have a better response. Until now, Farewell.
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PLEASE STOP USING
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by wls967 on May 22, 2003
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my name (W. Spencer or William Spencer) in your post. I said I was finished here and I meant it. Irregardless of your meaning, I want to be done with this post. Private e-mail is another issue entirely. YOU suggested it, and everyone else replying here made theirs available, except YOU and anonymous. You have made 8 replies under this topic, all to people who took the time to list their e-mail. So, follow your own advice and e-mail us. We won't let you down.....
bill
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by Buzztail1 on May 22, 2003
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
this topic is closed.
Thank you for participating.
Please take political discussions to someone else's site.
The members of the SHHS are all happy to have one of our own return from being in harm's way but enough world debate.
Any further posts in this topic will be removed.
Karl H. Betz
Vice President
Southeastern Hot Herp Society
Buzztail1@hotmail.com
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