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RE: 2010 Rattlesnake Round Up
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by Irishviper on February 17, 2010
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A lot has changed since then. The problem would be to A. find a lab that would run a test for buildup in the tissue, and B. obtain snakes that we know for sure that are contaminated. I've never actually seen how much is prepared for consumption at one of these things, but I doubt it would be enough to quantify a threat in a one round-up period.
Alan
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RE: 2010 Rattlesnake Round Up
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by pictigaster1 on February 17, 2010
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My thoughts on Ross allen are rather mixed the more I read of him.He is no longer on the pedistol he once was but he was what he was.As far as selling a few wild cought snakes I am guilty of selling thousands in the 80s.I hand cought each one.I have mixked feelings about that as well.I have cought and sold over 300 Trans pecos copperheads in the 80s and 90s.Do I know where they went I do not know I sold them to very reputable dealers and alot went over seas to zoos.I had a rule that I kept to and still do.Have I over collected an area yes I have.I always thought it was ok because all went to homes to be bred.Yet I see no massive breeders of that species at all.With all I supplied there should be more around but no there is not.Where did they go.I do not know.They are easy to keep and breed.I will still collect a few locality ones for certin people and I always will.Only now I know exactly where they go.I also collect locality leps for people I know and trust.I know where every lep I have collected is and who pwns it and they are all still alive in breeding programs.I will no longer over collect an area tho.
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RE: 2010 Rattlesnake Round Up
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by ChunkHead on February 18, 2010
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Well Archie, I think everyone of us has been guilty of catching snakes and giving them away, or selling them, at one point or another. I think you would agree though that as we have gotten older and more educated about the impact of overcollecting that we have taken steps to slow this trend, or even reverse it. The folks who put on the rattlesnakes roundups simply haven't gotten this memo, yet.
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by roadkruzer on February 18, 2010
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Four Georgia men were recently charged in a snake hunting case. What were they doing? Gassing gopher tortoise burrows for EDB's. They were caught in the act and arrested January 28th. The kicker - the Whigham Rattlesnake Roundup was to be held just 2 days later on January 30th.
Read the full story here
http://snakesareus.com/rattlesnake_roundups
Jason Clark
Southeastern Reptile Rescue
www.SnakesAreUs.com
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by CrotalusAdamanteus on February 18, 2010
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These roundups do nothing but make a huge dent in the population in Mainly Eastern Diamondbacks. All of the other Canebrakes, Timbers, Pygmies, and other animals down in the Gopher Tortoise burrows end up dying as well because they can't get out fast enough before the gas/smoke kills them.
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by PlTVIPER on February 18, 2010
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Rattlesnake roundups should be illegal. Everything about them makes me sick. On B.W. Smiths website, there is a story about the roundup in Claxton GA. Apparently in 2004, people from redtailboa.net all donated money and teamed up with B.W. Smith. They purchased all the snakes that survived the roundup before they could be killed for skin, etc. It was the "Rattlesnake Roundup Rescue." Here is a link to the story:
http://www.reptileeducation.com/index.php?pid=11
People that do things like that are monsters. Killing an animal so you can wear its skin as boots, or so you can wear its skull as a necklace!?! It makes me sick and ashamed to be a human being. We will pay one day. I can't believe these are still allowed to go on.
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by jay72 on February 18, 2010
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This is a recent press release to the Georgia governor regarding the rattlesnake roundups. I am sending my own letter as well as a copy of the recent arrest where hunters are actually going on state wWildlife management areas and using gasoline to show how bad this situation is. They were pouring gasoline down every tortoise burrow if they didnt hear a rattle. Absolutly disgusting.
Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue Called on to Ban Rattlesnake Roundups
FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. - January 28 - In a letter sent today to Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue, the Center for Biological Diversity is urging the state to outlaw rattlesnake roundups. Roundups are annual contests in which hunters bring in as many snakes as they can catch in a year. A recently published study shows that roundups have depleted populations of eastern diamondback rattlesnakes in the southeastern United States.
"Indiscriminate killing of wildlife has been banned for most animals for decades, but not for rattlesnakes," said Tierra Curry, a biologist at the Center. "This abhorrent practice is harming rattlesnake populations and should be stopped."
The eastern diamondback was once a common species, but is now being pushed toward extinction by hunting pressure, habitat loss, and road mortality. An analysis of 50 years of roundup data shows that both the total number of snakes and the size of individual snakes have declined over a 50-year time span, and that hunters must now drive hundreds of miles to find snakes for the event. The snake hasn't been seen in Louisiana since 1980, and is now uncommon throughout its range in Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and the Carolinas.
"Rattlesnakes serve an important role in the food chain by controlling rodent populations and should be respected," said Curry. "With populations in decline, rattlesnakes need protection."
Two Georgia towns still hold roundups. The Whigham Rattlesnake Roundup is Saturday, January 30. Some claim that the roundups protect public health, but eastern diamondbacks rarely bite, and more people are killed in the United States each year by dog bites, lightning strikes, or bee stings than by venomous snake bites. The roundups are not necessary to obtain antivenin, as major producers of antivenin only purchase it from approved suppliers under sterile conditions and have stated that they do not purchase it from roundups.
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