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by MasterSquam on November 10, 2011
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I have been watching all this crap on TV like "python hunters" and "swamp wars" and they all keep acting like they are fighting against some deadly plague of snakes. Meanwhile, the snakes are harmless and are not hurting the Florida environment at all, they are integrating and assimilating perfectly. The alligators eat them, they eat the gators, there really is no crisis. The crisis is just fabricated for TV ratings. There are so many things in the everglades that can eat pythons its ridiculous ! Tarpons, Lemon Sharks, Bull Sharks, Florida Gar, American Alligators, American Crocodiles, King Snakes, Turkey vultures, Barred Owls, Bald Eagles, Red Shouldered Hawks, foxes, etc. Not to mention foreign viruses and parasites. The whole thing is just hyped up because America is bigoted and racist against snakes because of the stupid Jewish bible. Other civilizations such as the Greeks and Egyptians worshiped snakes. Another thing that is retarded about these shows is that they aren't even doing anything that is significantly stopping the snakes ! They are just going out into the woods, catching one harmless snake, demonizing it, and then euthanizing it for no reason at all and acting like they are solving the problem ! They are just mindlessly picking on and killing snakes ! Catching one or two snakes per episode isn't addressing the problem significantly at all ! It really disgust me, especially when they fail to consider that they themselves are invasive species that have done more damage to Florida then any Burmese python could ever do ! Are you kidding me ? Who cares if the snakes are invasive species; species spread out naturally all the time. When the water recedes in some area and some land bridge opens up all different types of animals swap territory. It happens all the time in nature ! Does it matter if a random land bridge or a human causes a species to become invasive ? I think not. It's natural ! Look at the Japanese Macaques ! People seem to forget that invasive species aren't always bad. One article I was reading online entitled, "Sometimes Invasive Species Are Good," by Brandon Keim, states "According to Schaefer's group, biologists are often biased against invasive, and decline to notice or report instances of beneficial invasions" Cows are invasive species, so is corn, does anyone have a problem with cows or corn ? It seems that a species is labeled good or bad based on human perspective. I haven't seen any compelling evidence that Burmese pythons are hurting the everglades in any significant way and I like the Burmese pythons ! In fact, I think it is the exact opposite, I think that they are good for the everglades ecosystem. It is just that the typical dramatic, base, and overreacting homosapien is to biased and bigoted to see that because our flagellant and psychotic culture is obsessed with demonizing certain animals. I for one have begun breeding 6 adult female Burmese pythons this season and I plan on releasing all of the offspring into the everglades. I would rather have the satisfaction of knowing that I am doing something good for the ecosystem then profit. Hopefully people start releasing king brown snakes and Mambas into the everglades this way when the clowns from python hunters go to try to pick on some innocent and harmless pythons for T.V ratings they get bit by something more capable of defending itself and die in the mud like the inconsiderate douche bags they are !
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by theemojohnm on November 10, 2011
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Yep, heeeeee's baaaaaaack..
You know, Tommy.. I actually agreed with SOME of this this post to an extent, too, until you started rambling on about releasing pythons in the glades, LOL !
Invasive species DO tip the natural balance. But, the way I see it is, take a look at the population again in fifty years.. If the pythons are still there, and we can't find significant evidence that they are over-competing with native species, or pushing native species out, then they can obviously live there.
Is it worth jeopardizing native species, ABSOLUTELY not ! But, I too haven't seen a whole lot of evidence that they are harming a whole lot of the native wildlife. And, I agree that those TV shows are as biased as they come..
But, you also have not a shred of evidence that they are HELPING in any way whatsoever, and your credibility was flushed, once again, by mentioning releasing pythons into the wild. Now you're intervening, with no basis for that action, whatsoever. I say, they're here.. If they live on their own without human intervention, either way (either killing them, or releasing more), and are still here in 50 - 100 years, and no native species have suffered much because of it, then let them be.
Although, I have my doubts that there WILL be any in the glades, in 100 years time.
That's twice today that you actually made SOME sense, and twice tonight I am catching myself agreeing with you, SLIGHTLY.. Then, you ruin it with talk of releasing pythons and mambas into the glades. And, I certainly don't agree with ALL of what you said, but, we do agree on some points. Interesting..
Take Care,
-John Mendrola
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by MasterSquam on November 11, 2011
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The problem is that they are not living in the everglades without human intervention. I am simply arguing that for every one snake that these little fairy's pluck out of the everglades one should be released back in. Especially since there is no laws on the books protecting them like there is for gators. You are right though, there is no concrete evidence that they are helping the Florida ecosystem but I will say this: They eat the gators and will keep the gator population in check, and the gators can also eat them and keep their populations in check. They also can be a new food source for many other animals in the everglades as well, such as the ones I posted earlier. There will probably be other benefits as we just need to leave them in their uninterrupted and study what actually is happening. I seriously doubt that they are going to throw off the balance of the everglades, I think the everglades is way tougher and more adaptable then that and I am confident in my position that if given enough time they will be a good thing. They have brought more attention to conservation and created lots of jobs in Florida, that is indisputable and that is a very good thing. Debating about the stuff and arguing about how they may or may not affect the ecosystem certainly puts a lot of emphasis on, and gets a lot of people interested in, ecology. Also, I was not saying that I was going to dump mambas in the glades, I was just saying that if I was watching python hunters and I seen Graziani get bit by a mamba as he was trying to catch a burm it would probably put a smile on my face. I will leave it at that and let the chips fall where they may.
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