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Which Crotalus rattles the least?
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by GreenBeauty on May 4, 2013
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Hi all,
after 3 years of keeping asiatic arboreal pit vipers, I decided to move onto some rattlesnakes.
My question is, which of the Crotalus species do not tend to rattle as much. I know that it will vary among individual snakes more than anything, but I have picked up a few words that Western Diamondbacks will certainly rattle little no provocation, while Timbers and Blacktails will not? Is there truth to this?
I do have guests over and while we make no secret of my love for snakes, audial warning from a venomous snake is something we'd like to minimize as possible.
I would go for a hyde county red pigmy, but Crotalus just seem much more interesting and authentic in a sense.
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by Peter84Jenkins on May 6, 2013
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That would be Crotalus catalinensis, a rattlesnake that lacks a rattle. However, it is critically endangered, so no chance of acquiring one. Honestly there is no correct answer here, it all depends on the individual. A wild caught western diamondback might rattle at the slightest disturbance, but a 4th or 5th generation captive bred individual of the same species might not rattle even while being hooked. I have had rescued timber rattlesnakes that would rattle for the entire time I was in the snake room, and continue to rattle for some time after leaving. And I have had some that were so calm they didn't even rattle when it was time for cleaning. With that said, go with a calm captive bred specimen of what ever species you choose.
You can place a towel or blanket over a cage with a noisy snake, this serves to black out its environment and keep it from seeing you, thus making it less likely to rattle.
Might I suggest working with a genera that does not posses and audible defense mechanism if the noise it makes is your primary consideration? Personally, if you are going to take on a rattlesnake in your collection you should be prepared to handle the noise it will without a doubt make.
You should consider animals based on you skill level, your taste in species, your ability to provide for all of its needs, and not on how much it might annoy your guests. I am not trying to be rude, but your question comes across as awfully hubristic.
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by varivenom on May 6, 2013
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Can you complete your profile please. Also no one rattler is the same. Cannot expect one to just not rattle. It luck of the draw. I have only one crot these days. A wdbXSpeck. I bet u I have only hears him rattle 2 times since his birth in 09' but yet his sister I used to also have was a buzz saw. Really just depends. Try a pygmy rattler. Even when they are buzzing the sounds of my cat sleeping would be louder! Lol Be safe.
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by GreenBeauty on May 6, 2013
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Peter84Jenkins, good call on the Crotalus catalinensis, I was wondering which goof ball would be gearing up at the chance of making an obvious and half-witted remark and I am glad that you took advantage of the opportunity.
All joking aside, yes my decision to get into Crotalus is based on my skill level, taste in species and ability to provide for its essential needs as one you would say, while also taking consideration of others factors - why can't I consider all factors involved? You make it seem as though I am not allowed. By the way, I don't think you even know what hubristic means seeing how you clearly used it in the wrong context.
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by Peter84Jenkins on May 6, 2013
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Ask a half-witted question, be prepared for a half-witted answer. Not sure how I misused the term hubristic. Your desire to obtain a "quiet" snake simply because it might annoy you or a guest is very arrogant - which is hubris last I checked.
I gave you many options, why did you resort to ad hominem attacks? I never said you were not allowed to explore options or have any snake you want, I just think it is silly to shop species based on the fact visitors might hear them. You should only keep species you are 100% committed to dealing with, including all of its biological functions.
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by GreenBeauty on May 6, 2013
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I am sorry that you took some of the comments personally. I do not believe it was a half-witted question; while acknowledging variability amongst individuals, I wanted to know which specific species has a propensity to not rattle as much. Call it silly if you want, but there is an answer to this. I just don't think you know it. It just seems like you took the opportunity to take advantage of the subservient position of the asker to throw in self-righteous remarks for whatever reasons that appealed to you.
Seeing how you are located in Georgia, the fact you are required to keep your venomous snakes separate from your living quarters and also the fact you are limited to indigenous species do not necessarily make you the best suitor for this answer. Again, I never said I was not committed to dealing with all of its biological functions, but you can continue to throw the preface to an unproven assertion if that's what you want to do. I won't care. This will be my last posting on this topic, I do apologize for the way this thread has turned.
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by varivenom on May 6, 2013
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LOL.... fill in your profile please. The rules apply to everybody if Im not mistaken. Also why would you ever wana switch from arboreals "my personal fav" to crots? Just curious.
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by Peter84Jenkins on May 7, 2013
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My friend, I am not sure why you are so defensive. My original recommendation of the rattleless Crotalus was a joke, did I need to follow it with a smiley face or an lol?
Anyway, I, along with Tim, have provided you with answers. You are asserting that there is a "correct" answer (or even a general answer) to your question..the truth is that there is no right or wrong blanket answer for you. You are going about this the wrong way. you will not find an overall species that tends to rattle less. Behavior is subject to the forces of natural selection just like any other characteristic of an animal, that is why I made the suggestion that you shop for a calm captive bred animal. It is no guarantee of a quiet snake, but wild caughts (especially adults) tend to respond to captivity by rattling allot, and they rarely ever calm down with time.
I am not sure how the state I currently reside in makes me unfit to offer an answer. I also find it a bit creepy that you checked on that, and then used it in your argument against me.
You are not in a servile position for asking a question, thats just an odd thing to say.
Lots of good resources on this site, and lots of knowledgeable keepers to learn from, so I wouldn't run off because someone made a suggestion you thought was "half-witted". Please fill in your profile, an argument from anonymity lacks ethos.
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by Cro on May 11, 2013
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While working at the Atlanta Zoo, I cared for all of the many different rattlesnakes that were in the collection back then.
I will say, that the Blacktail Rattlesnake does tend to be one of the least likely to rattle or get disturbed in captivity. Wild caught ones can be difficult for some folks to get them to eat is captivity.
It would be best to find a captive born one that is an established feeder.
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