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by pygmybait on March 4, 2004
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Please forgive me for turning a snake forum into an arachnid forum but you guys were a huge help last time... Now to my question -
Would it be safe for one to say that technically, all spiders are venomous? Not necessarily the one that are dangerous to humans - I mean ALL spiders. Is it just a question of the lehngth of the fangs and venom make up that determines whether a spider is considered "venomous"? Thanks for your help -Matt
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by spankey on March 4, 2004
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In my opinion all spiders have venom therefor all spiders should be considered venomous. BUT I am NOT a spider expert.
Jason
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by Phobos on March 5, 2004
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To the best of my knowledge all spiders have venom. Like most venomous animals it is most effective against the target prey. The venom liquify the prey so it can be "sucked" out of the body/exoskeleton. The common house spider has one of the most potient found in spiders but it's fangs are too short to penetrate human skin....lucky for us.
Al
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by Fabian on March 5, 2004
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Hey buddy,
Yes all spiders are venomous. And you know, I was watching a deal on NG and they said that a daddy long leg was one of the worlds most venomous spiders. just no fangs to inject it with. "WOW" a daddy long leg LOL
I am going to check in on that. But, hey if the NG said it was. Heck I bet it is .
Did you get the e-mail from me I sent a little while ago ?
I am sorry It took me so long to get back with you. Let me know.
Thanks,
Fabian
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by Chance on March 5, 2004
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Actually, that's one of the biggest "spider" myths out there. Harvestmen (daddy longlegs, etc), aren't even spiders. Spiders have to have two body parts, thorax and abdomen, and eight legs. Harvestmen are arachnids, much like ticks and scorpions, but aren't spiders. And the whole thing about their venom is probably pretty exaggerated.
-Chance
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by elapidking81 on March 5, 2004
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I did a little research about the grandaddy long legs and chance is right , the myth is that there the most venomous, thats not true , as for the lenght of there fangs on some large ones they can peirce the skin
shane
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by Rabies on March 7, 2004
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As far as I was a where,there is one group of spider that has no venom,it simply wraps its prey in silk.I'll try and find their Latin name.
John
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by Fabian on March 7, 2004
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After reading a great deal on this subject I have found that there are a lot of spiders considered daddy long legs, but I think that the one we are all talking about here is not a spider, and is not harmful to humans. here is a small article on what I am talking about.
Are daddy-long-legs poisonous to humans?
Maybe and No. Depending on weather you are asking about the daddy-long-leg spider or the daddy-long-leg Opiliones. Opiliones have no fangs or venom glands. They do have defensive secretions produced by a pair of scent glands on the front end of the body but these secretions can not be injected by their mouth parts. Some people may be sensitive to the scent gland secretions but this would affect them through their lungs or through skin contact, not through bites. In very old publications (hundreds of yeas ago), the term Phalangid was used for many different animals, some of which were poisonous to humans. As discussed above, daddy-long-legs spiders are true spiders and have venom and fangs but it is a myth that pholcid spiders have venom that is highly toxic to humans. In other words, unless you develop an allergic reaction to pholcid bites, you should have no worries.
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Fabian
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