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northern and southern coppers
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by elapidking81 on April 13, 2004
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man,
i hate to post this cause it embarassing but can any one please help me in telling which is northern and whats southern when i think ive got it figured out i find out i really dont, but please helpfull insight please. were i live there are both and they look to me just alike even the pics i have looked up ????
p.s dont hurt my feelings to bad:-)
shane
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by timberrattlesnake89 on April 13, 2004
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The first thing is were you are at. If you are up in higher mountians usally are northern copperheads. If you are in a city like atlanta or someplace in the south. The second thing is that southern are a lot more lighter than northern and that is because northern are usally in higher area which are cold were darker color absorbs heat. Northern usally range from northern georgia to maine and place far north. Southern range from middle georgia to southern georgia nad also found in places like SC, Alabama, and Mississipi.
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by elapidking81 on April 14, 2004
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im from north east mississippi were we have both in my county that is my problem thanx for your reply
shane
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by timberrattlesnake89 on April 15, 2004
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if you see a brighter copperhead what i mean is light colors it probaly a southern copperhead. The darker is usally the northern
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by elapidking81 on April 16, 2004
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thank you ,
I know it is a stupid question but i have all ways wondered but was to embarassed to ask.
shane
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by HerpMan73 on April 16, 2004
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Shane:
I'm not an expert, so check out the following link. It gives a little bit more information than just darker or lighter. I found the info. simply by searching "northern southern coppperhead" on www.google.com
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~krmessen/copperhead.html
Hope this helps you.
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by jared on April 19, 2004
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My pleasure,
Northern copperheads occur as far north as New hampshire and rumored as far north as southern Maine. Integration between northern and southern copperheads occurs as far north as VA and Bleeds all the way down to central southern SC and through parts of Ga and Northern Alabama. Southerns purebloods seem to concentrate in certain "colonys" in certain areas, as far north as NC but not that common. Some of the best or most Traditionally patterned southerns come from LA,S GA, SC, AL, and FL, those who seem to be lightest in pattern and thinest bands (butterfly patterned) seem to have concentrated populations in S GA and S SC as well as very thin patterned individuals existing in E TX and LA as well, but those I have seen with the lightest backgrounds and cleanest bands have come from GA and SC. Exceptional Northerns can be found in KY, WVA,VA,TN, W NC, and in the midwest they all tend to bleed together up the mississippi they can be intergrades of Northerns,Southerns, or osage. Agkistrodon intergrade naturally in many parts of there range including TX,IL,KS,NC,SC,AL,GA,VA,MS,Etc and I may be leaving some states out but all of the above mentioned have natural intergrades. Copperheads in nature have some of the most variable patterns and it is often hard to distinguish between purebloods and intergrades. Hope that helps,
Jared Watts
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