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by elapidking81 on June 17, 2004
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i know that you can contract the bacteria salmonella from reptiles but i was wandering is there other ways to get salmonella , like if you have a cut or scrap on your hand and you put your hand in your turtle tank or while cleaning your snakes cage or any other means other than ingestion. just to shed some light on the subject
shane kissinger
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by captiveherps on June 17, 2004
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Salmonella is on everything, the risk from herps is small. Dont lick turtles, and dont worry about it.
The best source for salmonella is chickens. Most people will ingest bacteria all the time and it doesnt harm them. You have to get alot to get really ill, like eating a aged cheese that has been sitting under a chicken in your fridge. Staff or strep would be more likly to infect cuts.
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by Phobos on June 17, 2004
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Shane:
Salmonella is an enteric bacteria. It burrows into the lining of the victims digestive system. Getting it into a cut will not infect you with Salmonella. It is a good idea to wash your hands after handling herps for two reasons. 1) for personal hygene & 2) So you don't pass pathogens to other herps in your collection.
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Al
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by Fabian on June 17, 2004
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So the only way to get salmonella is to ingest it through the month ? I guess it would take a lot of it on your hands and put them in your month to have any chance of getting it then ?
Fabian
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by Phobos on June 18, 2004
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Fabian:
Technically speaking you would only have to ingest (1)..yes, one bacterial cell. In practice though; the contaminated source would contain millions of cells.
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Al
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by BanffshireBushman on June 18, 2004
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Just a short note on the contracting of salmonella. I have not yet encountered any form of infection through all the handlings of terrapins. To try and minimise cross infection either to myself, or to the charges, I ALWAYS use powdered latex disposable gloves. These are available from any pharmacy, and can be used for routine tank cleaning, tick and mite eradication, reptile/chelonian handling, and keeping spider hairs and the infernal itchy rash that follows off your hands. THE MOST IMPORTANT USE OF THESE GLOVES TO ME, is feeding time. I can handle mice/chickens etc, to feed some of the snakes. When the gloves come off, I don't smell of dinner to the others that are getting handled.
I have been called a "wuss" from the ignorant, when I come to use a new pair of gloves before handling different animals. But, when I explain that it minimises tick/mite/bacterial infections etc from one reptile to another, they then "see the light".
So, whether you have an open sore/cut or not, I strongly recommend the use of surgical gloves. Contrary to belief, it is possible to contract some form of salmonellosis through the open skin - EX: The protective gloves, worn by a veterinary surgeon whilst calving a cow BURST. Within 48 hours, numerous non-puritic papules had appeared over both arms, especially the upper arm, where his gown cuffs had chafed the skin. The papules developed into pustules, which burst and resolved in approximately 10 days without treatment. A pustule was swabbed and a pure growth of Salmonella species was recovered.
Even with gloves, you are not 100% free from possibility of infection. But they sure as hell help. MINIMISE CROSS CONTAMINATION and INFECTION, MAINTAIN HEALTH and HYGIENE for both yourself and your reptiles - ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES.
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by Phobos on June 18, 2004
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Hi David:
Great information! Common sense sure goes a long way. I'll take a box home with me from the lab.
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Al
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by elapidking81 on June 19, 2004
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I also use latex gloves in my cage cleaning and other duties, i was just curious if you could get salmonella any other way other than ingestion thanx for ya'lls replys
shane
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by timberrattlesnake89 on June 24, 2004
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The real truth is that it is very hard to get salmonella from reptiles. Snakes and lizards espacally. Turtles are more know to carry it. I have never contracted it from any animal. It is also a food poisonoing and that is how most people contracted the bacteria. I really dont think much about it. I just would if you are scare of contracting it wash you hands after working with fecices. You are 100 times more likely to contract it from food poisoning than reptiles.
Phillip
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