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by mayank_g on July 2, 2004
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Hi,
I am amature herpetologist from India. I would like to know what procedures must one do when some one is biten or taged by a venemous snake. In India hospitals are not easy to reach.
Is the Sawyers kit really helpfull or is it just a waist? Is there a program to teach Herpers First aid?
Thanks
Mayank Goyal
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by Phobos on July 2, 2004
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Hi Mayunk:
Welcome; What part of India are you from? I have been to your country four times.
I'll try to answer some of your questions. I'm sure others will also answer.
We just discussed the "extractor system" and over all it seems NOT to be useful. see: http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/8326
There are many references to snakebite treatment on this site and others. Click the "Link" box at the left to reference them.
Administering antivenom in the field is very dangerious...perhaps as dangerious as the bite itself. If in extreme circumstances the risk of dying of the venom or antivenom are your two options...I can say what to do..since I'm not sure how I proceed. See this website thread: http://www.venomousreptiles.org/forums/Experts/8334
One site I do find very useful is :
http://www.toxinology.com/
The basics are free and they cover all venomous creatures.
Good Luck,
Al
http://groups.msn.com/SomeLikeThemHot/
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by mayank_g on July 2, 2004
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Thanks a ton I was not aware that this subject had already been disussed. I am at the moment in Mumbai/Maharashtra. But I frequent Delhi also. Where have u been in India.
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by Phobos on July 2, 2004
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I was in Mumbai, Delhi (every visit), Shilong, & Chandigar.
I had a wonderful time each visit. My hosts made me feel right at home.
Best,
Al
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by mayank_g on July 3, 2004
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Hey were you there on holiday or were you there herping. I have been to a couple of places around but both places r really crouded and not good for herping.
It is quite common to find russels vipers, cobras and checkered keeled back snakes. But if one wants to see the other ones you have to look in the national parks.
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by GREGLONGHURST on July 3, 2004
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The administration of antivenin really should be done in a hospital..for two reasons, at least. First is that it is most beneficial if administered intravenously, & that takes quite a bit of medical training to be able to accomplish. Second is that there is always the risk of allergic reaction to the antivenin..anaphylactic shock, which in most cases is fatal...unless the victim is in a hospital being treated competently. Adrenaline drugs must be used quickly to keep the victim from succumbing to anaphylactic shock.
First aid for elapid bites should include quick use of a pressure bandage.
~~Greg~~
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by mayank_g on July 4, 2004
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I agree with what you are saying. But I have very often seen on websites that are selling the Sawyers extractor or other extractors. In the field would recomend ttheir use or u feel the pressure bandage and then rushing to the hospital is a safer bet.
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by GREGLONGHURST on July 5, 2004
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For an elapid bite, I would use the pressure bandage rather than the extractor. The extractor seems to cause necrotic problems.
~~Greg~~
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