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Trans pecos ratsnake/mojave rattler
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by cottonmouth on July 24, 2004
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Hey, do you guys have any problems feeding these species? I caught both of them last week in Texas and was just wondering if thier might be any trouble ahead. JQ
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RE: Trans pecos ratsnake/mojave rattler
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by JTEDENS on July 26, 2004
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I've caught subocs before and caught one this year. Never had trouble feeding until this year. I caught a yearling female that refuses everything. I dosed her with Flagyl last week but she still hasn't eaten for me. I've had adult subocs, babies, and now a yearling. They seem to prefer rats over mice though. Don't know about the mojave.
John
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RE: Trans pecos ratsnake/mojave rattler
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by timberrattlesnake89 on July 26, 2004
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I do not know about the mojave. The ratsnake should not be a problem I caught a grey ratsnake once and the day I got him home the started eating. Ratsnakes are great eaters.
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by CSS15 on July 27, 2004
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The mojave should feed without any problems. It might have just eaten or still be digesting its last meal. The ones I have kept sometimes took a few weeks to adjust to the cage and then fed fine after that. I always fed live prey too, it might make a difference if you are trying to feed pre-killed. Good luck.
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RE: Trans pecos ratsnake/mojave rattler
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by 23bms on July 27, 2004
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My wc mojaves tend to be flaky eaters, but not worrisomely so. They occasionally go off their feed only to start up again with a vengeance a few weeks later - none the worse for wear. Mid-late summer is a common off time but hardly invariable. The behavior varies wildly from individual to individual and seldom abates, even after years in captivity.
If your husbandry is sound - temp, hide spaces, light, etc - you should give them the benefit of the doubt. They will eat when they want to.
It is essential to understand that they are all individuals and each has it's own eccentricities. It's part of what makes them so fascinating. I have an infant [perilously snatched off a road from in front of an onrushing Suburban a few months ago] that spends all it's time near the top of a large, leafy, very artificial "tree." It will happily take f/t hoppers left in the top of the tree, but nothing else anywhere else. Maybe it thinks it's a mamba. Who knows.
[Oddly enough, I also have a recently acquired R.l. lecontei that seems to think it's a tree snake.]
Elaphe (along with most Pituophis sp. and C. atrox) tend to be reptilian vacuum cleaners. If it's there, they'll eat it, almost regardless of the state. My experience with subocularis is consistent. Be patient. But, if your's seems to be the proverbial exception, don't hesitate to let it go.
btw, good luck
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