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Western hognose venom and type of venom
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by keyz on September 19, 2005
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Does anyon have the specific date regarding western hognoses and there type of venom neuro, or heamotoxic i really dont know an is there a measureable yeild deliverd in a feedind or induced bite many thanks Kieron.
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RE: Western hognose venom and type of venom
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by theemojohnm on July 9, 2008
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" Human saliva, when injected into a hand, results in local pain, swelling, and discoloration. However, this does not mean that Humans should be considered venomous. And yet, this is precisely the approach taken by many in the herptile hobby when discussing the American hognosed snake.
According to Smith and Brodie: "...the fangs do not deliver a venom, although the saliva is believed to be toxic," (1982). "
(http://www.hognose.com/pages/venomous.htm)
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I mentioned this to Al once, but he seems to agree like so many others do that hognose snakes ARE venomous. I would defenietly have to agree with Al, but myself have no experience with hognose or anything about their "venom"..
I could not locate any results from studies regarding what type of venom the hognose have, or what it is closer related to (hemo or neuro etc.)
Although I have absolutely NO knowledge on this subject, I defenietly would have to side with Al simply because in terms of toxinology he knows his stuff.
I would REALLY like to know more about this aswell, so if anyone has any ifo or resources from studies etc, please post!
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RE: Western hognose venom and type of venom
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by CanadianSnakeMan on July 16, 2010
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I read once that there is a difference between the effect of the venoms of eastern versus western hognose snakes. If I remember correctly, it stated that when administered to frogs, western hognose venom had a much quicker incapacitating effect whereas the eastern's venom took much longer to have any effect on the prey. (if I can find the link somewhere I'll post it)
One would assume that if it were merely saliva it would not have evolved in the western species to be able to incapacitate prey.
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