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what do you think about colecting hots that are il
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by viperman on August 31, 2000
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well, i have been dying for eastern massasauga's for years and have no way to even get them anyway but , my opinion is that if we had them they would be endangered anymore thats for sure but that is just me also if anybody has them contact me i want some too, i would breed to release here in pa
john friemann
aka-viperman
just an opinion remembet that!
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Unfortunately...........
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by Charper on September 2, 2000
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Breeding to release doesn't work unfortunately. A snake has to be from a specific area to survive. This has been shown in a couple of studies that I know of.
As far as collecting animals that are illegal, I am totally against it. They are made illegal to protect the last viable members of the population. Biologists spend much time in the field to determine that a species needs protection. Snakes have a much better chance of propagating in their natural environment - overall. There are some venomous keepers that are very successful in captive breeding programs. If you really like Massasauga's, do what you can to contribute to their conservation. Maybe volunteer at a nature center that keeps a couple?
Personally I do feel that if a snake is going to be used in public education programs, then it might be worthwhile to take one with a permit. The best thing to do is to try like heck to find a captive bred animal though.
Good luck in your quest,
Chris Harper
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Leave them be is the best thing to do
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by DM on September 4, 2000
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Sorry, but I live in NC where I have ample opportunity to collect red pigs and try my own at breeding them and "saving them." The fact is that they are doing just fine in the limited space that they have left to claim. Yes, they are found in only a few counties in the world, but they are numerous there. Yes, they need to be protected in their home range, but bringing them home with me will not help. I love to photograph them and then watch them slither back into the bush where they belong. The bush is diminishing, I admit, but what do I have to offer the surviving members of this species in my house? They may as well be extinct as be the last surviving members of their species if they are kept under captive conditions. Going and taking more animals out of the wild in good intentions does no good. That's still taking good breeding sized adults out of the wild. That can only hurt the species and their population. Sorry, you know that we're friends here, but we differ on this opinion.
DM
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