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by Snake17 on December 19, 2004
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I`m sorry. I forgot to sign out from my girlfriends user. I posted tha last post. Alex S.
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Anonymous post on December 19, 2004
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Echis a way cool. Their fascinating, audible warning, small size, and undemanding husbandry requirements make them one of the most spectacular staple items in the venomous herpetoculturist collection. As many already know, the combined toxic venom and aggressive temperaments leaves no room for complacency when dealing with this species. Depending on the species kept, water can be either offered sparingly (2 days a week) or not at all. I have kept E. coloratus with success for years never offering water at all. Water needed was provided by mice consumed.
I find it amazing that such a unique organism evolved developing keeled scales arranged at a 45 degree angle to produce such a loud warning. Tony Phelps, the author of "Poisonous Snakes", states something along the lines to describe Echis as "Perhaps the most irascible, dangerous snake in the world".
-The Phantom
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by Snake17 on December 19, 2004
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Echis`s reputation is wel knowned. It kills more people than any other snake, along with Bitis arietans & Daboia russelli if I`m not mistaken.
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by BGF on December 19, 2004
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I've milked quite a few flavours of Echis and they are truly fascinating creatures. As long as you don't have to get near the pointy end, they make lovely captives. Things get interesting when they need to get milked. They are increibly fast and when they strike, those big cute eyes way forward make them dead on accurate. Where it gets really fun is that there are major antivenom issues with the snakes. Antivenom made against the local species in one area may not work even at all in some cases. This means that incredibly toxic snake bite with no effective treatment. Not good. I know of one serious keeper that will put down any hybrid he recieves in a shipment. Fair enough. There is enough problems with the venom/antivenom relationship without throwing venom gene recombination into the mix! I respect Paul Rowley for milking as many as he does on a regular basis.
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Bryan
www.venomdoc.com
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by Phobos on December 22, 2004
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One of the nicest snakes in my collection with one of the fastest stikes I've seen. They have such excellent control depending on the circumstance:
While feeding I've observered two different varieties of strike, One fast and very delicate ending with the lightest touch of death and one that hit like a bullet knocking the target on a terminal flight.
Does anyone notice a difference in temperment across the subspecies? I have 1.1 WC carinatus and they are very docile and curious, not that I let it get close to me.
Cheers!,
Al
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by sierra on January 1, 2005
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I just uploaded the list as a pdf....its in the file library ( under care sheets, it seemed the best place given the choices)..and as soon as the file manager approves it, you shoyld be able to upload it....I hope this helps, and I appologize for the delay.
Sincerely
Sierra
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