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King vs Rattler--Further Comment
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by delllz on March 23, 2005
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In the absence of a first-hand report of a king cobra killing and eating a rattlesnake, I would like to do a little speculating.
OK, so we have a hungry king and a rattler together in some kind of a pen. Each is aware that another snake is present. The rattler buzzes his warning. The king approaches the rattler to check him out, getting in striking range of the rattler. In a split second the rattler strikes and recoils, having given the king a lethal injection. The king writhes in pain and shock, and three minutes later lies dead.
Another scenario would have the king strike first, and hang on. The rattler reaches over and bites, injecting a full dose of poison. The king quickly lets go of the rattler. In about three minutes both snakes lie dead.
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by Scootertrash on March 23, 2005
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Ok, my expertise is not in the cobra catagory so someone please tell me if I am wrong bout this. Aren't King Cobras imune to certain types, if not all types of venom? I heard this somewhere but don't know where. Again, no expertise in Cobras but just asking.
Clayton
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by Rabies on March 23, 2005
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Hmmm whether a King Cobra is immune to venom from a snake half way around the world would be hard to say, when you think it has evolved to eat other snakes from within its locality. But its all hyperthetical, or?
John
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by Cro on March 23, 2005
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What does "The rattler buzzes his warning" got to do with it??? Both snakes are as deff as door-knobs! Cro
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by timberrattlesnake89 on March 23, 2005
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I saw a clip a of a kingsnake aproaching the rattlesnake. First the rattlesnake rattled but then then it relieze what it was and instead puffed up for a second then turn away running from it. After a while the king snake gave up because it could not get close enough to the head to grab it.
Phillip
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by Matt_H on March 24, 2005
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King snakes are immune to rattlesnake venom. Rattlesnakes make up a large part of the king snakes diet.
I don't know much about King Cobras, though I do know they also feed on other snakes including russel's vipers. Russel's viper venom has many of the same toxins as rattlesnake venom such as myotoxins and hemotoxins. Bites from russel's vipers have also shown neurological symptoms including ptosis, external ophthalmoplegia, and dysphagia.
I'm not certain if king cobras are immune to the venom of russel's viper, but I would venture to say, if it does have an immunity to the venom then I would think it could very possibly withstand a bite from a rattler with little to no effect.
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by earthguy on March 24, 2005
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Snakes are not as "deff as doorknobs" as you put it. They have no external ears, but they are very sensative to vibrations in the atmosphere. Some recent research has shown that snakes may even communicate through sound (although this is still very speculative).
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by earthguy on March 24, 2005
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I'm going to agree with Rabies on this one. Co-evolution is important in inter-species interactions. I would have to say that the Naja would probably not have a natural immunity to the Crotalus (I am making assumptions on the Geni here). At any rate why are we having this conversation? What kind of derelect would put two beautiful animals into a cage together just to see which one gets killed? This is like dog and cock fighting!
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by bush_viper17 on March 24, 2005
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The rattlesnakes long fangs can still pierce the kings skin and puncture an internal organ. The king cobra is a master of seizing and eating snakes, I think that it can take on any snake that is smaller than it with little or no problem.
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