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by OzarkHerp on March 26, 2005
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How many of you trim the nails of your female heloderms before egg laying to prevent them from puncturing the eggs? If you don't do this, how do you prevent them from destroying their eggs?
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by John316 on March 27, 2005
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When I worked with Heloderma I always kept their nails trimmed year round. It is very easy to do just make sure you don't clip too much off.
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by AquaHerp on March 27, 2005
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Let me rephrase that, for egg-laying purposes. I have trimmed back on very rare occasions when it seemed to be a husbandry issue. Again, this was a very rare occurance.
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by John316 on March 27, 2005
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I guess we know different people then (LOL) because most of the private hobbyists I knew during the time I worked with them trimmed the nails, ESPECIALLY when egg deposition drew near.
I can't say it will keep your eggs from getting sliced and diced but I can say I never had a problem with a damaged egg due to the animals' claws.
On a side note I also trim my tortoises' nails regularly with particular care being payed to them when signs of nesting are present.
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by AquaHerp on March 28, 2005
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Yep, we definitely must know different people then. The ones I know that have successfully bred them , and continue to do so, don't trim before egg deposition. I've never trimmed tortoise nails, or turtle nails for that matter either in the scores of eggs I've dealt with over the years, including critically endangered species. Just goes to show, each to his/her own I guess.
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by John316 on March 28, 2005
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You are correct. Each to his own. I personally prefer the assurance that trimming the nails offers especially since it causes no harm when done properly and keeps the digits from twisting due to abnormally long nails. Since most private hobbyists do not use substrates that allow for proper wear and tear the nails can and do grow to abnormally long proportions.
On a side note I too work with critically endangered Chelonia and participate in the AZA program. This is precisely why I go through the trouble of insuring that their nails (and mandibles for that matter) are well groomed.
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by Cro on March 28, 2005
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Atlanta Zoological Park bred a bunch of helodermas. We never trimmed toe nails, as it was never a problem. All the exibit cages had crushed marble substrates and rock structures and concrete caves. The helodermas were always digging, and wearing down their nails at the same time. Eggs were removed once they were deposited, and hatched on a vermiculite substrate. JohnZ
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by AquaHerp on March 28, 2005
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I would certainly advocate trimming in the event of alleviating mechanical problems associated with abnormally long claws. And, if done properly, would do no harm for lizards and/or turtles getting ready to nest. Not arguing with you, nothing really to argue about. Just something that I have never felt the need to do and have never had a problem with personally. Again, what ever works, as long as the animal is healthy.
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