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by dsschless on March 13, 2006
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I have a question concerning a baby canebrake that I have had since september, he is about 6 months old now, he has refused food for about a month, although the last two feedings he has attempted to hit the mouse (which i presented alive) I have witnessed him get a good hit on it and it never did act envenomated, I watched the mouse for about 30 minutes and ended up killing the mouse myself and then put it back in the enclosure with him and he seemed very intrested in it, but never ate it! (he has done this twice now!) Well I guess my question is, is it possible that he is not producing venom? I have had him since he was about a month old, and he has been able to envenomate mice before. also when he stretches and realigns his jaws after he strikes at the mouse i have seen the inside of his mouth and fangs and they appear healthy and undamaged! (also I have fed him smaller adult mice, but now that he has not eaten a small adult do you think that maybe a hopper would be better?) If he thought the mouse was to big? Thank you for reading my post!
Stefan
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by Cro on March 13, 2006
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Stefan: Going back to a hopper sized mouse would be a good idea.
Try to find a brown or black mouse if possible, instead of a domestic white one.
Some snakes have a bad experience with a too large mouse, and develope a fear or intimidation.
Hope this helps.
JohnZ
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by Parcelmouth on March 13, 2006
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Another thing you can try is "braining" the mouse. After you kill it, cut open its skull so the brain is exposed. I know this sounds gross, but something about the scent will usually turn on that feeding switch. I have a female Eastern diamond back that would not eat for anything. A good friend and mentor took her for almost a year, and this is how he finally got het to feed. She is still a fussy eater but she has not refused a meal In the last year.
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by toddg on March 13, 2006
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Are we talking about feeding a baby rattlesnake here, or one of those "Night of the Living Dead" zombies?
toddg
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by petra on March 13, 2006
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I also had problems with one of my rattlesnakes to feed. I have tried everything and he didn't eat for a few months. I managed to catch a regular small brown mouse that got in our house. He was interested as soon as I've put the mouse in. One mouse was enough to get him started now he is taking white mice again.
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by dsschless on March 14, 2006
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I'll be going to get a hopper today and let you know how it goes, I'll brain it if he wont take it on his own. Now what about the last time I tried to feed him and he hit the mouse but was unable to make a kill? Has anyone ever had an experience where a rattle snake wasnt producing venom? From the looks of it he should of had a lethal hit on the mouse (right in the center of its body)
Thanks Stefan
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by MoccasinMan on March 14, 2006
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Possibly a dry bite... or mild envenomation. A mild envenomation still messes the mouse all up... it just doesn't die quickly. Probably a dry bite. I think it is 40% of bites are dry.
Andrew
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by dsschless on March 15, 2006
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Last night was a successful feeding! wooohoooo!!! I was able to get a light brown hopper, and he hit it as soon as I put it in his cage, actually he hit it twice. Although it did take a long time for it to die, as if hes not using much venom, but oh well, he ate! I don't know if having a brown hopper helped or not, as he hit the white mouse I put in there for the last feeding attempt. Next week I'll try a white hopper and have a brown one standing by just in case! Last night was the first time Ive had 100% of my snakes all eat, even the ones getting ready to shed in the next couple days! Must be somthing in the air, or the full moon or somthing! lol
Stefan
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