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by Az on April 13, 2006
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Hey all hope all is well not been on for a while.
Was wondering if any of you can help me out. I am looking to move on to lets say more challenging snakes like boas, pythons and possibly in the future a yellow anaconda etc in the near future however due to a lack of room i may have to part with my corn and rat snake that where my first snakes and i have had for about 5 years now. Can anyone help me put into words what i can possibly say to me mum in order to help her understand this she keeps saying "you dont get rid of one dog etc to get another" She has threatend to say if i get rid of the corn etc i cant have any others :(. she just wont have it that in all fairness a snake is totally different to a dog in relationship terms. Also i would never sell my stuff to some random person who i thought would not look after them.
Any possible help on this strange subject is welcome thanks Aaron
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by Buzztail1 on April 13, 2006
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Aaron,
In 1980 I bought my Colombian Rainbow Boa as a neonate.
I still have her - healthy and doing well.
I have had to give up various snakes over the years due to the limitations of where I have lived and the restrictions of my career but never because I was tired of a snake or ready to move on.
That is why I counsel against "beginner snakes".
I agree with your mum.
Karl
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by Az on April 13, 2006
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It is not to say that i am bored with my "starter snakes'' but how else am i to ever get any other species of snakes. If i had the room to keep these snakes and get others and fit there vivs in which would be the ideal situation i would but unless i can somehow win space of my garage im knackered my room is extremely small as it is.
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by Frawgg on April 13, 2006
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Aaron, I'll have to side with your "mum". Remember, those snakes did not ask to placed in an aquarium nor did they ask you to purchase them. As a RESPONSIBLE snake lover you need to provide the best care that they deserve. If you're tired of your child, do you get rid of it and get a new one? I think not. Please keep your snakes and enjoy them 10-15 more additional years. It is cruel to the snake to get rid of them just because your bored with them. Instead, challenge yourself with designing a snake cage and environments that will keep you interested and benefit your snakes. Possibly other herpetoculturists can benefit from ideas that you have/will use. IT's NOT THE SNAKES FAULT YOUR BORED! Besides, pythons and anacondas eat more expensive prey items and take up more room, thus costing you more money.
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by JHarrison on April 13, 2006
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No offense, but once you have your own home then you can take up as much room as you want with snake cages. Don't rush into it. What about keeping some 'challenging' small reptiles instead of larger ones? There's much to be learned from the finesse and care that some small reptiles require. As an employer, I'm much more impressed by someone who took the time to care for only a few animals well, than by someone who tries to impress me with the big snakes they've kept. (Not that you're doing that, I'm just trying to make a point.)
The fact is, your corn snake probably doesn't love you like your dog does, but it does rely on you for food and care just like a dog.
-Kristen
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by petra on April 13, 2006
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There is a reason your mom doesn't want to let you sell your snakes. She is doing you a big favor because she wants you to be responsible. You should be happy she actually cares about you. And that was a very good point - once you have your own place you can decide how much room do you want to use for your reptiles, until than you have to live by your parent's rules - remember it's their house.
Besides you shouldn't be getting snakes just to move on after few years. Why did you even get the snakes you have. I don't know about you but, I was way more attached to my first snake than any other one I ever owned afterwards it was just a corn but it was special because it was my first one.
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by Az on April 14, 2006
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must say i agree with you all on the whole. I will aim to try and move into my garage with my stuff as it does have no use for anything else. Please undertsand this is not bordem i said to a friend of mine if worst come to worst and i had to get rid of my snakes i would be gutted about getting rid as the fact that they where my first snake means alot to me. I can say you have changed my perspective on this issue and i will now face upto the fact that if i want other snakes that get bigger then the cost will be part of the parcel. The point of how a snake relys on me for food is a very good one and thinkin about it, its a great feeling knowing that you have had something all be it only 4 or 5 foot since it was smaller than a worm. Thanks for your input on this subject and can i ask what is your views then on people who offload snakes for reasons to get others you have stated your reasons against it but do u think it shows a sense of immaturaty etc. Thanks peeps and stay safe Aaron
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by Rob_Carmichael on April 14, 2006
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Aaron, I know we all sound like nags but many of us were in your exact same shoes. I have a 40 year old ball python and believe me, I can count on several sets of hands how many times I wanted to get rid of this snake...but, everyone always told me that this snake was my responsibility for its entire life...and, I still have that snake to this day. Sure, I've moved on to many other exciting projects but that animal is a big reason why I am doing what I am doing today and that is working with herps on a professional level (curator). Don't let anyone tell you "that's just a corn snake"...every snake is unique and I am sure you'll give it the best in care.
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
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by toddg on April 14, 2006
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Rob is absolutely right. Once you accept the responsibility of reptile ownership, that animal is completely dependent upon you for it’s wellbeing and survival. You should never get rid of one snake just to get another. Also Aaron, consider this, boas and especially large pythons are really cute when they’re babies. There’s nothing like holding a baby green anaconda or reticulated python with the realization that you are holding the largest and most notorious of the big snakes in the palm of your hand.
However, try to REALIZE what this snake is going to be like when it grows up: It’s going to need a really big cage, it’s going to eat Really big prey items, it’s going to take REALLY big craps (And no. They don’t fit in the toilette any more.), and believe me Aaron, (This depends on the individual temperament of the snake) once they get big enough that they feel they don’t have to tolerate you anymore, they won’t! I’ve got six pythons, two anacondas, and one very large red tail in my care right now. I live in a one-bedroom apartment, with a cat (dude!), and the snakes take up a great deal of room! The largest snake is about a 15’, 100 lb. female retic, and she does not like me very much! Just the simple task of changing her bedding is quite an adventure. Not a fun one! And she’s nowhere near full size!
Also keep in mind that a giant constrictor, no matter how friendly it appears, only has to have one bad day… you only have to make one mistake… and you will die a rather unpleasant death! Of course you could always get rid of it (Like so many others do!) when it gets too big, but then again, that’s the very habit we’re hoping you’ll avoid.
toddg
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