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by Vader on July 30, 2002
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I have an eastern that I have had for about five years now. He was about a year old when I purchased him. In those days, he would strike his prey and it would fall dead almost immediately. Now that he's older, it takes FOREVER for his prey to expire, sometimes almost an hour. My question is: Has he learned that the prey will not escape, and as a result, is he just conserving his venom?
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Should I be concerned about a health issue that could be affecting his venom production/yield/toxicity?
The snake is, in all ways, the picture of health. He has been doing this for a while now and is still going strong. I just can't get the nagging feeling out of my head that something might be wrong.
Thanks!
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Anonymous post on July 30, 2002
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I have noticed this in several viper species. I really do not think there is anything wrong with them but being held captive they become bored, and a slow killing of a rodent might be the funnest past time your snake may have to look foward too.
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by fizzbob7 on July 31, 2002
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so snakes are intelligent enough that they need to be entertained...i hope your kidding...you posted anonymous so i wasnt sure if u were joking or being sarcastic because you're a peta member or something sadistic like that....
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Anonymous post on August 1, 2002
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Yes every type of lifeform has some sort of intertainment ,
If you spent much time observing them you could plainly see that. and yes I am sadistic but I am not a peta member , and I might put a spell on you for being so judgemental.
Zach
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by fizzbob7 on August 1, 2002
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dude could you send me a little of whatever you're smoking...it has to be good stuff....especially if you think all animals need entertainment...when is the last time u saw an ant play....i doubt they're playing follow the leader when they're in the little lines...but who knows for sure...
Ricky Duckworth
29420 Ardmore Park Apt 23
Ardmore, AL 35739
thats where to send the good stuff
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Anonymous post on August 2, 2002
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Yeah I do smoke some pretty kind stuff.
I would have to say that the ants moving in a line is a chemical response to take care of business weather its to find food, or move the colony.
However many vertibrates and possibly a few invertabrates have abilites to show compasion, curiosity ,and yes a little intertainment. Some of them even learn to like certain people. I have nearly 200 rattlesnakes and I have observed all kinds of interesting behaviors, both in captivity and in the field. Some of my larger Crotalids will only nip its food and chase it around almost like they are playing with them other times they may just tag and kill. I notice the nipping more so in the mid summer than any other time. The reason I belive they depict people is because when I go into my lab where they all live to clean or feed etc. they never rattle. but when another person comes by to take a look they all start buzzing as soon as they walk in. So that shows they are used to me and my movement patterns. have a good one.
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by fizzbob7 on August 2, 2002
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ok ...not only did you spell a few words the wrong way you also said "depict people"...depict-to represent in a picture, or to describe in words....you mean they can distinguish between people...i dont argue with that....i have kept a bunch of reticulated pythons before i started on hots and they display that characteristic more strongly than any other snake i have come across and even more than iguanas that i have kept...are they smart though...no, and unintelligent animals don't care to be entertained....in my opinion(along with a bunch of other people that should know their stuff)...intelligent animals do entertain theirselves no doubt....dogs, cats, horses, pigs...most mammals and jumping spiders are considered highly intelligent for anything with a brain their size...they can plan attacks on other spiders and use alternate plans to get the job done if something unexpected where to happen...but i dont know everything....maybe your right...i just dont think so...adios chica
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