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by SnakeEyes2006 on September 23, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
last Tuesday I was contacted by a guy wanting to get rid of a snake, all he told me that it was a Texas Rat Snake and that it was White? I thought what is the chances, but I thought what the heck I'll bite. I got there where we were to meet and he brings out a 7 ft Leucistic Trans-Pecos Rat Snake!!!! (Male) Man what a beauty!!! Tame as a kitten! Now I am looking for a good looking female, anyone have one!? Shawn

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by Rob_Carmichael on September 23, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Seven foot suboc? Boy, I'd have to believe that to see it. Please post a pic and have someone holding it for scale - that would be a monster if its true but I'm real skeptical.

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by Cro on September 23, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Is it a Texas Rat Snake or a Trans-Pecos Ratsnake ? There is a heck of a defference ! Best Regards JohnZ

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by GREGLONGHURST on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
The reason for the skepticism is that Trans-Pecos rat snakes are known to reach five and one half feet, tops. Is there any possibility that you have mis-identified the snake? Texas rats are much more likely to reach seven feet. ~~Greg~~

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by SnakeEyes2006 on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Ok, before everyones panties gets in a twist, the boy called it a Texas Rat, but he doesn't really know his rear from a hole in the ground. It is pure white with the bulgy eyes just like the Suboc , now that I have a laptop I will get a good pic and post it on this thread soon, if I miss-identified then ok, I have been known to be wrong before, but it does have a different head than my local Black Rat Snake, either way still a good steal, since I got it for free! And He eats really good. How should I post the pic, through photobucket, copy and paste the tag identity?

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by Rob_Carmichael on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Shawn, re-read your post. You said that you were there and identified the snake as a trans pecos. I don't think anyone has their panties bunched up and I take a lot of offense to that kind of crappy remark when you made such a bold statement as you did. I know you meant no harm in the original post and like you said, you got a free snake so that's great but be careful in making jabs back at folks when a little justified skepticism was in order. The only thing I mentioned is that it would be nice to see a verified pic/measurement of this snake - it would most likely be a record which would be significant and something the herp community would want to know about.

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by Cro on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Shawn, posting the link to the photo in your Photobuckett Account would work just fine. Looking forward to seeing just what the critter looks like. Best Regards JohnZ

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by centexsnakeguy on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
I find it hard to swallow also, sounds like a texas rat that has bug eyes, common deformity for leucistic texas rats.

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by Chance on September 24, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Exactly what I was mistaken. Leucy TX Rats often have one or both eyes that stick out quite a bit more than usual, so it might make the animal appear similar to a suboc. I saw nothing to warrant offense, just a simple misidentification it appears. Post a pic anyway! -Chance

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by SnakeEyes2006 on September 25, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Ok, yes I appologize for any quick jabs to all of you it was uncalled for. You all are the experts I just come here to read what is going on in the World and to get a little more knowledge if possible?! I looked up Texas Snakes and found a picture of a Leucistic Texas Rat Snake curled around a Red hat, mine seems to look just like it, but I am now going to go out and try to get a couple of good pics and post them so we all can make a better identity. like I said I am not the expert , I am just excited of a new snake! give me some time to get a pic on here and thanks to Rob, JohnZ for being open minded and quick to respond. Shawn

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