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Baby Crotalus willardi born at our facility...HELP
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by Rob_Carmichael on June 2, 2008
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Hi gang,
I'm the proud daddy of a beautiful baby Crotalus willardi that was born two days ago - just one but that's still great considering this species is rare in captivity (two stillborns and a few duds). Now I'm desperately trying to find some sceloporus (fence lizards) and asked through the AZA listserve but to no avail. I've left a few messages at Glades but haven't received a response. Does anyone have any leads on these lizards? I might be willing to try any small lizard species at this point.
Thanks!
Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
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by PitVipers on June 2, 2008
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Rob, Have you tried Ground Skinks? Or 5-Lined?
I bet they would go for that.
Randal Berry
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by PitVipers on June 2, 2008
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Also, if they were born two days ago, you have a few weeks to worry abt getting food into them. Ask your buddy Tim in Austin to catch some swifts for you. Even if they are too big for the babies to eat, you could odor manipulate them.
Randal Berry
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by BigBend66 on June 3, 2008
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Great accomplishment. If you can't find aby, then force feed a fence swift or skink. I'm sure being who you are that you know that but I have a couple snakes in my collection, one being a Malayan pit that has never eaten and I have slid a swift down it's throat forever.
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by Irishviper on June 3, 2008
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I,ve raised several different montane species in captivity with very little difficulty, to include C. w. willardi. Wait for (it) to go through it's first shed, and offer it a large pinky. Odds are it should take right to it. Using wild caught lizards might back-fire on you, plus you run the risk of parasites from wild caught lizards. Congrats! and good luck.
Alan
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by AquaHerp on June 3, 2008
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Rob,
Many times the little willardi won't take the pinkies for a bit, even those that are lizards scented.
Shoot Larry Lemon an e-mail at Abilene and ask him to put you in contact with Mike Price for some Uta lizards, if he has any surplus. This is a main staple of thier diet in the wild and I have not seen one refuse a Uta yet. Mike normally keeps a supply on hand for his litte viper-lettes and perhaps will send you some frozens.
Great news on the little willardi, great snakes and handsome from birth too!
DH
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by Cro on June 3, 2008
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Rob, congratulations on the little ridge-nosed rattlesnake.
My backyard is full of small fense lizards.
I can see 20 or 30 of them in just a few minutes around the log piles and old barns.
However, the little boogers are faster than me.
I will make an effort to sneak up on a few of them for you, perhaps by flipping boards early in the morning before they are all wound up and hot to go.
Anyone have a design for a lizard trap ? The ground is mighty hard to try to dig a hole for a pit-fall trap.
Best Regards John Z
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by Viperlady on June 3, 2008
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Hey!! nice to hear such great news.. congratulations on your venomous lil' baby. Nice way to get back in touch, right?
Wow, if it was possible I'd teleport some sceloporus to you from my garden. We have plenty every year, you know, Mexico, land of sceloporus, but maybe you could try with anolis carolinensis or some other lizard like a a small skink. We once had to give one of these to an Ophryacus due to a sudden drop in sceloporus populations. It worked perfectly. Well, actually I have never kept willardi, so I don't know their eating habits, but hope the baby makes it.
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by sandiegoan on June 11, 2008
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The first baby rattlesnake I caught I didn't realize they don't eat frogs, so that is what I fed it, because they were plentiful and easy to catch. It would bite the frog and let it die, but not eat it. After 2-3 days it began biting them and eating them. That went on for many months. When I got a book on snakes and learned they don't normally eat frogs and toads, I fed it small birds and mice, and reintroduced it into its natural habitat after one year.
Maybe your baby will eat other things until you can obtain the specific prey you want.
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