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by pictigaster1 on April 12, 2009
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The real question would who has not.This is our future any one who does not reaps what they sew.
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by atwageman on April 12, 2009
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Your right maybe the real question is who has not. Whats even more sad is the complacency and mindset of some. I got in a argument today with someone who keeps corn snakes. The bonehead said he wasn't worried since he only keeps native species of snakes and wasn't concerned about HR669. I spent over an over explaining the overall big picture and that native species are in the cross hairs and that HR669 is just a stepping stone for the AR nuts.
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by pictigaster1 on April 12, 2009
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I truely hope that the cornsnake guy does not have to find out.At that point we would be long over.I have been around awhile and witnessed change after change.The moral majority thinks we are nuts and will never understand rattlesnakes next door.Or crocs in the back yard.Our Great Nation is in such a state of chaos that it seems these laws make a good curtain hideing the real problems that are in our face.A Jeff Corwin or Steve Irwin They can understand.They will never understand the guy next door doing it.This fight will continue as long as there are reptile keepers.
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by atwageman on April 12, 2009
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The general public doesn't realize either that Jeff Corwin and Steve Erwin, Mark O'Shea, etc. started in the backyard like the rest of us.
Not to be funny but society is defintely in a "nanny state" mindset. Comedian George Carlin did a whole routine on it once. He called the pusification of America.
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by Cro on April 12, 2009
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Unfortunatly, folks like George Carlin die way too soon, and jerks like Jimmy Carter live way longer than they should.
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John Z
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by MoccasinMan on April 12, 2009
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Thanks everyone for the support! Get everyone you can to send the letters to the sub-committee looking at HR669.
BTW- just for the record... Jeff Corwin is on the Board of Directors of the Defenders of Wildlife a radical environmentalist group that co-authored HR669 with HSUS and The Nature Conservancy. Please don't suppoert Corwin. Also you may want to reconsider any support of Animal Planet as they are deep in the pockets of HSUS. Take a look at some of their programming and advertising. They have become very supportive of some of the AR agenda.
Andrew Wyatt
President USARK
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by MikeB on April 14, 2009
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Let me weigh in on the HR669 effort. I am a herper who is also senior policy aide to a member of Congress. Here are some tips that may be useful in addressing this issue and in communicating with representatives and senators:
First, realize that the senator or representative is very unlikely to read your letter or e-mail personally. The mail volume is just too great. Instead, aides who handle correspondence and legislative aides read and tabulate mail and craft responses. This does not mean your communication efforts are in vain. It is very common for legislators facing a vote on a bill to ask “how is the mail running?” They also meet with staff before floor votes to go over pending legislation, asking for pros and cons. You want a staffer to say “We have had a number of letters opposed to this and they make some very sound points.”
Second, and this is perhaps the most important tip, they listen to the views of the people who elect them. That means mail from the home Congressional district for representatives or the home state for senators is given added weight. That does not mean you should not write to those in other districts or states, especially if they are involved in committee action on the bill. Just realize that a return address from the home turf says “read me!”
Third, a personal meeting with staff is also very effective. Make an appointment with the district director or constituent services chief in your home district congressional or senate offices. Bring some friends. Go over the issues in person and a memo will likely go to the rep or senator summarizing your views.
Fourth, don’t be nasty or abusive. “You tyrant!” letters are basically ignored or discarded. “I will never vote for you again if you support this bill” sounds petty and childish. Appreciate the truth that most Congressmen and senators really aren’t focused on this issue . . . use your message to educate rather than confront.
Fifth, couch your argument reasonably. The best points on HR669 are that this is an issue that should be left to the states, that it is unnecessary (Burmese pythons are unlikely to be roaming New Hampshire) and that it is a shotgun deployed against a mouse. In general, Republicans are more likely to oppose “nanny state” and excessive intrusions like HR 669 represents, while Democrats are more liberal, government-action oriented. However, a number of Democrats represent districts and states where voters are more conservative, and they would be amenable to the same arguments on this issue that apply to gun control.
Finally, Congressmen and senators hold town hall meetings in their home areas during recess periods. Get a group and attend one. Ask to speak briefly with the rep or senator after. You may have to visit with a staff member instead, but turning out shows you are serious. If you are involved with a local herp group or even a zoo or other permanent display location, invite someone from the rep or senate home office to come visit and see a presentation. They love people who visit schools and such.
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