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by agkistrodude on July 22, 2009
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John, the substrate in my cages comes right to the edge of the 1 1/2 inch litter jam that can't be seen with the door closed. Even if it wasn't there, no litter could jam my doors open. The door itself would push the litter out of the way when you shut it. Take care, Marty
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by Kingetula on July 22, 2009
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najasuphan, Very well said about making sure they have room. I am the same way. I own 6 T-20 from APcages and 9 T-12. I should have had the height smaller as 24inches high is over kill IMO but at the time I wanted display cages. Now I would only buy 15 or 18 inchs high and squeeze in an extra snake cage. I don't mind shoe boxes at first because those Animal plastic cages are not to be trusted with baby snakes. To many times I have had snakes crawl between the sliding glass doors. (Room is snake prrof so I found them) However it's a year or so (depending how fast the grow) before the go into those cages.
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by Rob_Carmichael on July 23, 2009
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I'll take a room full of neodeshas ANY and am so glad to see that they are making cages again - I'm putting an order together. There really isn't a better cage for venomous than Neodesha - I prefer sliding glass front unless they are back opening exhibits cages which we also use. I've had far more problems with cages whose doors lift out - I really can't stand them for hots. In our exhibit room, we have Habitat Systems cages which are excellent quality as well as Animal Plastics which have worked well so far. But, if I could only pick one cage to use, I'd use Neodesha any day.
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by najasuphan on July 23, 2009
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I have never owned any Neodesha's but I have some friends that have them; both the slanted and hinged door versions. They don't seem too bad, especially if you have a rack to hold them in, but one problem that I have noticed on a few of the slanted ones is where the glass gets really tough to slide out. The only thing I can think of is maybe the material that the tracks were made out of swelled up due to moisture, or something. Any of you that use the slanted Neodesha's experience or know what actually cause the glass to be really hard to move?
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by agkistrodude on July 24, 2009
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One other problem with the Neodesha's,that I experienced myself, a friend of mine had several that were on shelves. Two of them contained red spitters. They CAN and DO spit venom right through the gap at the edges of the glass. I would not recommend them for any of the spitting cobras! Take care, Marty
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by AquaHerp on July 24, 2009
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Indeed, the spitters will occasionally get some venom through the small gap where the glass meets the cage and also through the top screen vent. As well, Western diamondbacks (Crotalus atrox) are good for striking the top vent screen and projecting a nice amount of venom through. Those C. atrox are good for flinging venom and I (we) use safety glasses when working snakes. I can't even begin to note how many times I have gotten venom in the face from atrox, adamanteus and asper.
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by Cro on July 24, 2009
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Jamie,
As far as the glass getting difficult to slide on Neodesha cages, that would happen in some of the old cages that used the thin plastic tract for the glass to slide in. Over time, that tract warped or sagged, and thus pinched the glass.
That plastic tract has now been changed to a thicker nylon material, and you should not run into that problem with any of the newer cages.
Best Regards
John Z
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by agkistrodude on July 24, 2009
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I'm sure there is a way to seal the edge gaps. Foam type window/door seals wouldn't work, they'd put too much restriction on the glass. I have seen some stick on brush type seals that might close the gap without making the glass tighter.
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by Agkistrodoncomplex on July 24, 2009
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I have to agree, I love a good ol' neodesha. no worries of escape if locked properly, very secure cages,and that is tip top priority for me, an escaped snake is my worst nightmare, ME getting bit is one thing, but a family member.yeah
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