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by Rob_Carmichael on December 26, 2010
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Thanks Randal, how big was the exhibit that housed the EDB and Indigo? I'm guessing it was a fairly large adamanteus with the couperi? After seeing pics of a Texas indigo woofing down an atrox, I'm a little timid keeping snake eaters with other species but it would be cool if it could be pulled off. I was thinking, however, of re-doing an exhibit that could house both our gopher tortoise and eastern indigo. This will be one of only two interspecies exhibits at our place, otherwise, it's just one specimen per exhibit for the reasons Larry mentioned.
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by lanceheads on December 27, 2010
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Rob, it's a fairly large exhibit. It's about 8' by 6' and 6' in height. concrete floor, rock wall, large pool etc. Yes it's an adult adamanteus and an adult female couperi. Since they share the same habitat in the wild, I thought I would try it a few years ago. I was looking to get a gopher tortoise as well to complete it. The substrate is a mixture of sand and hardwood bark with pine tree straw to make it look natural.
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by AquaHerp on December 27, 2010
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I tried keeping one of the big salties in the keeper break room. Although it wasn't a true mixed species by definition, it didn't work well at all. Crocs didn't mind, but the cleanup was getting old.
DH
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by lanceheads on December 27, 2010
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damn! same thing happened to me with rhombifer! The Maintenace Dept. was tired of me ordering new mops every few days.
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by AquaHerp on December 27, 2010
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you know...I trust those rhombifer less than I do the salties! Jumping little bastards
DH
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by CharlieO on December 29, 2010
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Mr. Carmichael, et al...
I just wanted to post a note from the consumer side on this...Those who've read my posts in the past may recall that I don't keep; I simply have a keen interest in these amazing animals...
As someone who only gets to see venomous in zoos, museums, etc., I find it fascinating when I can see exhibits with cohabiting species that might be seen in close proximity in a wild environment.
From the thread, it appears that you have already started populating your exhibit...If you are able to do so safely (for your staff and the animals), I would encourage you (and any others in your field) to expand the use of mixed exhibits and habitats in those cases where it might prove practical, educational and enjoyable for your patrons...
Charlie O.
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by Rob_Carmichael on December 29, 2010
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Thanks for the interesting perspective Charlie - it's always good to look through the eyes of potential visitors so I appreciate your insight. While I agree with Larry 100% on single specimen exhibits for hots, i've always wanted to try a mixed species exhibit and this would most likely be the only one we attempt. So far, it's worked out very nicely - all cohabitants getting along nicely. Cheers, Rob
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by 23bms on December 29, 2010
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I seem to recall that the Bronx Zoo had (may still have) a mixed exhibit of Timber/Copper/Black Rat. It was landscaped along the lines of a northeast den area and wasn't a particularly large enclosure.
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by FSB on January 4, 2011
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I think there is a lot of room for experimentation in this area, and I'm fascinated by the idea of communal exhibits. I hope to convince "the powers that be" where I work to try it in our new North America building. I have thought and thought about ways to create, say, a swamp where various species could be subtly separated by glass, but the practical considerations of keeping the glass clean always come up. On the other hand, I don't see the need to house specimens together in private collections, and as I have learned from experience, it is generally not a good idea, safety-wise, to keep more than one venomous snake in an enclosure (unless for breeding purposes). Of course, back in the day, my brother worked in the old snake pits that were populated by fifty or more venomous snakes, but that was another time and place. I still think an outdoor pit full of C. horridus would make for a dramatic display.
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