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by snakemn on February 25, 2004
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if you are bitten by a venomoid what are some problems you could run into and what would be the best treatment?
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by Phobos on February 25, 2004
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Snakemn:
If the snake had surgery to remove the venom glands and ducts then no envenomation will occur. It would be like getting jabbed with an unsterile syringe and needle with nothing in it. If you own such a snake it should have come with documention describing the proceedure and certifing that it is indeed a "Venomoid"
If the above is true it should be treated like any non-venomous reptile bite:
The bite should be cleaned with Hydrogen peroxide to kill any pathogens that were introduced. Follow this by a topical antibiotic like Neosporin or ask a Phamacy for their recommendation. Cover it to keep it clean. If you have not had a Tetanus shot in the past 5 years it is a good idea to get one as a preventative measure. If signs if infection occur (extreme redness, swelling, any sort of exudate like pus) seek medical attention right away.
Hope this answered your question,
Al
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Anonymous post on February 25, 2004
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If you can't take the heat, DON'T KEEP HOTS!
Stop mutilating venomous snakes so you can impress your friends.
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by vettesherps on February 25, 2004
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Personaly I think I have heard enough of the anti-venomoid slander. The person asked a simple question and I think we should be courteous enough to answer with out the slander. With all the bashing that the reptile community gets from the general public, we certainly don't need to bash each other. This person has obviously made their choice. Let it rest. Some of us do not think cross breeding is good either but we have as a group decided to do what we do and let others be as long as they don't negatively affect our hobby. As for the question. I have discussed it with my doctor and he states that washing with warm soapy water and dressing with an antibiotic salve and sterile dressing should be all that is required. He did state to watch for signs that it may not be a venomoid. (typical envenomation symptoms) If these occur get immediate help.
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by Crotalus75 on February 26, 2004
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Slander -
1)Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
2)A false and malicious statement or report about someone.
The definition of slander requires that the aforementioned statements be false.
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Venomoid bite is still a bite, venom or not
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by Buzztail1 on February 26, 2004
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Well two responses out of three being on topic and actually responsive is not bad!
Something that is often overlooked in the heat of the "is there venom in the bite or not" moment is that a bite victim has just suffered a double puncture wound.
If that bite is delivered by a Gaboon, Rhino, Cottonmouth or any large rattlesnake, there could in fact be nerve damage or rip/tear/slash damage. Large snakes can do serious damage with teeth alone as many a Green Tree Python/Burmese Python/Reticulated Python owner can attest.
Just saying that the absence of venom does not necessarily render a snake "harmless".
Karl H. Betz
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RE: Venomoid bite is still a bite, venom or not
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by Phobos on February 26, 2004
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Tallyho Buzztail1!
Good point that I missed about underlying nerve damage. Having been chomped by large Retics that can really make a mess. I can vouch for the whole sale damage they can inflict. Teeth can be left behind in the wound making a really nice infection till it comes out.
I agree with Karl here too: please try to answer the question at hand and not get into a "bigger picture" discussion. Start a new topic if you must "have at it" regarding Venomous vs Venomoid or legal terms.
Best,
Al Coritz
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