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RE: Teacher Wants to feed Puppies to Snake
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by najahannah on October 30, 2003
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What a concept ... Why the man could not think about the children in front is a mystery .... However good his idea may have been IE,feeding unwanted puppies to a hungry snake It was just plain stupidity... But the bitter truth remains the same .... Snakes have been evil from the day it helped EVE eat a tasty fruit :).... Puppies are a very crucial part in a child's growth ... It is the first connection to a different world for a children and come to think of how impressionable these kids are ... The teacher was on a path of no return ... If he was so concerned about the boa going hungry, he should have fed it a prey which is normally fed. But using a pup ( SO WHAT IF IT IS UNWANTED ) as a live bait was terrifying. The teacher should have some common sense ingrained into him ASAP. And I don't confirm the view I read here .. About ethnocentric upbringing .. dogs have a social status whereas a serpent doesn't .... Like it or not.... And if at all the pup were to be prey ... they have been so in a very private enclosure and not in front of sensitive kids.....
Love snakes :)
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by philcat136 on February 19, 2004
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"The ethics I was raised with say that if you are responsible for taking any animal's life, you do it with your own hands with compassion and you waste nothing out of respect for the life that you have taken."
I'm a vegan, *although that's virtually impossible*, but I totally agree with this point of view. Also, I own two rats, who I have developed strong bonds with, who trust me above others and show affection just like dogs and cats do... they are very social and affectionate animals. But I also respect snakes and natural predators. If people want to feed them mice or rats, those people in my view have an ethical responsibility to treat that rat fairly, and humanely euthanize it in a calm setting using halothane (I believe that is what it is called), available at vets. The teacher here was a moron to think that kids would be okay seeing puppies, LIVE puppies at that, being eaten, when so many in this society consider dogs to be "honorary people." (I personally feel that all animals including humans are equal souls, and in fact can be reincarnated to each other, but I know you don't so nevermind...) However, if these puppies were humanely euthanized, I would not have too much of a problem with the snake eating it. Animals and human beings both have souls, and sometimes we leave early and sometimes we stick around on this earth for a long time. It's not the animals' death I object to so much as the inhumane treatment, usually in the name of profit, that modern feeder animals, rats, cows, and everything else, undergo before their passing. I hope you don't discount all so-called vegetarians as morons or hypocrites, even if we are, because, hell, virtually all modern materials like rubber and the plastics that my computer is made out of or the metal that my pipes are made out of was manufactured using animal by-products. But at least I give it a shot. Hopefully that counts for something. Whatever.
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by gnomeman316 on June 21, 2004
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MSTT you really got to the point. Let me just say this ahead of time. I like dogs. but I like snakes too.skeeter,if you knew something about nature, you would know that if the puppies had any chance to eat the snake, they would have. I'm sure that dogs have eaten many snakes, some helped by their owners. you see things strictly from the point of a childrens television show. Anything without fur is bad! (lets use imagination to stop it..)Not that I would feed my snake dogs, first because he's too small and also because they not healthy. It is likely that the teacher was dumb though.Feeding furry puppys to an "evil" snake in front of people who actually do see things from the point of a childrens television show is a bad idea.
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by Kate on August 2, 2004
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I also agree with your views on the issue at hand TT but one would think that someone as intelligent as you seem to be would realize that critisizing other peoples' mental ability does not make you look any brighter. In fact, it almost makes me want to disregard your opinion as you're obviously just talking over everyone's head to make them feel stupid. Perhaps you're comments would be better recieved if you respected the others' rights to their opinions as you ask them to respect yours.
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by ALA_herp31 on September 22, 2004
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I agree that this teacher made a big mustake and that it dose blacken the image of reptile keepers.....but we need to ubderstand that if we start calling these ppl names we are no beter than thy are......i know it can make you mad but...we need to learn some restrant on the way we use our words.....useing the kind of words we use can damage our reputations as much as this guy did.....just my opinion...and just a sugestion.......happy herping
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by azazel418 on November 21, 2004
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just my 2 cents, doesn't the chinese culture use puppies as a food source?
it seems that this has touched a nerve, but hell, it does seem more productive to use strays, i.e. animals that are unwanted, and going to be destroyed anyways, as a meaningful food source? Rats, yeah, plentiful, but not much meat or protien. Rabbits, sure, I feed them to my Boas, and I own a lop eared rabbit. Hell, I let him watch, he doesn't care, and seems quite intrigued by the snakes still... (no, I don't let them play together!) Many people have brought morals into this, and sure, thats all fine. but these snakes eat anything in the wild, and many would consider that a steady ration of rats is inhumane to the snake. I'm not condoning what this guy did, but there are bigger issues. I've thought about visiting the pound for food for snakes at times, sometimes its difficult to find a steady supply of rabbits, right now my closest source is either to buy chickens from a swap meet ( what friggin disease may I transfer to my snakes!?!?!) or to drive almost an hour to a place that may be out by the time I get there... I've considered getting a mate for my existing PET rabbit, and using the offspring. People freak when I tell them that, too. it seems to come down to what an individual believes, and finds morally acceptable for their snake to eat, and thats a societal norm (maybe?) what goes in our culture doesn't fit in another.. I agree that this guy didn't think it through, and should have accepted the bible belt that he lives in wouldn't take that as being acceptable behaviour.
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RE: Teacher Wants to feed Puppies to Snake
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by RedrumRattle on February 14, 2005
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Shit like this pissess me off to no end. What idiot doesn't realize that feeding something like a dog to a snake is going to piss people off? Also I must point out because it was brought up, part of our emotional attachments to dogs and cats is the fact we have used them in the past. As a hunter I use dogs on a regular basis. And cats are one of the best antirat devices around.
But all that aside, it should be obvious that feeding something like a dog to a snake will piss people off. Most people grow up with either a dog, or cat, or both in the household. Whereas we cannot wait to get rid of any rats we find. I have four snakes in my condo, some of my neighbors already bitch when I feed them mice or rats and think I am some kind of evil villian. I can only imagine what an incident or two more like this will do.
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by herpitoligist on March 12, 2005
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Those dogs could have been adopted befor they were eatin. Snakes are awsome and I love to work with them but snakes need to stick with mice and rats (things that are over populating).
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RE: Foolish, ethnocentric sentiment
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by Val on March 16, 2005
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I totally disagree with what you said about rats being on the same level as snakes, and not being able to love humans. I've lived with both types of animals, and rats are definitely nothing like snakes. I currently have two rats that follow both myself and my boyfriend around the house, come when they're called, and even do a few tricks. Basically, they're just as smart as many dogs (maybe even a bit smarter than our lab!), and are very loving. They lick us like a dog would, and get excited when we come home. They're even trained to use a litter box (most of the time).
Anyways, I love snakes, don't get me wrong, but I think anyone that believes that the little guys they're feeding to their snakes are stupid or a lower order of life are sadly mistaken. Get to know your snakes future dinner...you might make a new friend!
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