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by roadkruzer on September 23, 2005
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Yes, I believe it would work for the canebrake as well as the timber. Just as it would for a southern copperhead verses a northern copperhead. I've heard that there are variations in venoms of the same snake that are from different locales but believe crofab would cover them all. Atleast the ones around here any way.
Jason
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by LarryDFishel on September 23, 2005
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To elaborate a little, there is no "timber rattler anti-venom". There are two antivenoms currently availible for North American pit vipers. Both are intended to work for all common U.S. rattlesnakes (with varying success). As far as I know both work for canebrakes and timbers.
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by nasicornis1 on September 23, 2005
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yes I have kept for 8 years now. I got my first rhinoceros viper purely by chance when my wife and i were still dating. A friend did not want it and it was given to me. My wife wasn't too happy but she learned to love them as much as I do. The reason that I asked the question is I have never kept native hots. It has always been exotic. Mainly Bitis but several cobras and a few cantils for a short time. thanks for taking the time to reply.
mike
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by Phobos on September 23, 2005
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Oh God...these sort of question/discussions really scare me. I feel a "Diamond Butt" attack coming on....
Al
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by nasicornis1 on September 23, 2005
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hey guys... I don't really understand the "Diamond Butt" comment, but i did not post this question to be attacked. So that there is no mis-understanding, after my first hot snake I got with friends who taught me the proper way of going about things. I do take my safety and my wife's safety very important. I use hooks, tongs, tubes, and lockable cages. I don't free handle. I like my life, fingers, arms, etc, just as they are. I haven't kept venomous snakes for about a year now because we moved and I did not have the room to feel comfortable. Now that we have bought a house and I have converted my garage into my new snake room, I would like to get back into it. So I thought I would start with a little research on native venomous first. Like I stated before, I do not want to be attacked for trying to gain knowledge. But if it is going to be this way I will make sure i never visit this site again and will tell others to as well.
mike
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by Phobos on September 24, 2005
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Let me explain.
I am known for being a bit unforgiving (hard assed, hence Diamond Butt) about people either doing stupid things like free handling and having a hot snake and not really knowing much about it. Believe me my comment was mild compared to some and is wrongfully perceived as an attack.
The absolute FIRST thing you should learn if you are preparing to keep a certain species of venomous snake is WHAT Antivenom is required and where is the closest source if you are tagged. It's also wise to keep a proper bite protocol for each species. Your question told me that you didn't have a clue. For someone who keep Rhinos and others you should know better, therefore you shold not be keeping ANY hot snakes.
People...Everybody needs to read & study all aspects of a species they are planning to keep BEFORE you have it under your control. It's for your protection as well as the people around you, not to mention the animal will have a better chance of surviving.
See now you know why I'm called Diamond Butt Al.
Have a nice day.
DBA
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by nasicornis1 on September 24, 2005
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which is exactly why I posted the question in the first place. I want to do the research on them before I get anything else. All I have is non-vens at the moment. And I am not saying the way I first started out was the proper way. But as I get back into this aspect of the hobby, i want to do it a little more properly.
mike
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