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by Phobos on November 3, 2005
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This is a very common question. First, how about you fill out the rest of your profile, so we know who you are, age and experience level. Catching copperheads & rattlesnakes is not enough information. Catching something and being able to safely care for it are two different matters.
Al
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by ALA_herp31 on November 3, 2005
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Please do not take offence by what I say, but I wish that you would fill out a Profile before I give you any Hot Keeping Advice. I will help you in any way I can, if you will let us know how many Years of Experience you have Handling and Dealing with Hot’s in the Wild. I will tell you that Keeping Hots and Working with them in their Natural Environment are Two Totally Deferent Situations, when you Keep a Venomous Snake in Captivity, you have to Clean Cages, Feed, and a lot of other duties that bring you in Close Proximity to the Snake. This being said, you can see that the likelihood of being Bitten Increases by leaps and bounds. So, if you don’t mind give us some idea of you Handling Capabilities. Thank you and do not hesitate to ask if you have a question, that’s what we are here for........................Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by ALA_herp31 on November 3, 2005
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Sorry Al, looks like I read your mind “LOL”......<<< Wally the Mind Reader “LOL”............Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by necroscollector on November 3, 2005
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Ok sorry about that newbie to web-site.
I am 31 years old. I have always had some type of snake or lizard since I was 10 years old. I mostly keep small to medium size snakes, my corns & king snakes are the largest snakes i will own. Never did care for pythons and boas. I have been handling "hots" in the wild for about four plus years. Like I said mostly copperheads and timber rattlers.
I am interest in adding a "hot" to my collection but, I do not want a large "hot". And of course this will not be a overnight decision.
need more info let me know, I am here to learn. grover
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by earthguy on November 3, 2005
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If you are of sound mind and body, you are old enough, you have seriously given thought to why you want to keep hots, and have still come to the decision that you want one then I would suggest a captive bred southern copperhead. These snakes are only moderately sized, and captive bred specimens tend to be milder in temperament (plus captive bred snakes don't stress wild populations). Plus I think that they are a beautiful native snake. Don't fall into the trap that copperheads have "mild" venom. Any venomous snake can be dangerous. Make sure that if you're going to do this, go all the way. Get a high quality locking cage, short hooks, easy clean substrate (plus extra), etc. Also, make a plan in case you do get tagged. Get to know your local doc, and see if your local hospital stocks A/V. Another plus with the copperhead is that the A/V is relatively common.
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by Phobos on November 3, 2005
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Thanks for the additional information Grover :-)
The most common opinion is that a Copperhead is the best first HOT. Pretty easy to keep and handle.
All Venomous snakebites are serious medical emergencies and a Copperhead bite is no exception. Deaths caused by their venom are rare but there was one death by allergy to the venom this year or last. The Copperhead bite causes the most lasting disabilities out of all of the domestic snakebites in the USA. A fact I just learned at the Snakebite symposium in Omaha last month.
Al
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by Phobos on November 3, 2005
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Hey Wally...
This is not the first time you read my mind..I better install a better "firewall"....LOL
Hope your wife is doing well...
Take care,
Al
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by necroscollector on November 3, 2005
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I figure it would be a copperhead. Also was told about an Asian vine snake (not how venomous these are though).
Believe before I acquired a "hot" I will own everything needed to house and etc. I will probably build my own cage though. grover
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by Cro on November 3, 2005
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Grover: I would stay away from the Asian venomous snakes at first. Although they are kool looking, they often die in captivity very quickly. The main reason for this is that they are often very sickly from being wild caught and imported, and often carry parasites, which are hard for a new snake keeper to diagnose and treat. Also, if you are bitten by one of these tropical snakes, it will cost you many thousands of dollars for the very expensive and hard to obtain anti-venin needed to treat the bite.
If you start with a copperhead, you will be able to learn a great deal, and if you get tired of it, you could release it into suitable habitat in your state.
And if by some chance you get bitten, getting the appropriate treatment will be much more possible.
Hope this helps some. JohnZ
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