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by ALA_herp31 on November 3, 2005
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I tend to agree with the rest also, Copperhead’s are probably the best beginner Snakes for New Hot Keepers. Even though they are not considered to be a very Hot Snake, please remember that they can still cause Loss of Limb even Death. So, always watch were you put your Hands. Good luck, I hope you are able to find a Healthy Baby Copper to Keep. ...................Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by elapidking81 on November 3, 2005
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Also I see in your profile that you live in Alabama, I belive that it is illegal to have a vine snake or any othe exotic venomous snake, some of the others that live in Alabama can give you a better understanding of the current laws in that state.
Shane Kissinger
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by necroscollector on November 3, 2005
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I believe they have passed some new laws over the last few years. I remember someone getting busted for owning a puff-adder and some other exotic's without permits.
Yeah I think copper would be good choice, I know both hospital in my area have copperhead anti-venom...already done my research alittle.
If I do make my mind up it will be next spring before I acquire one.
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by RepFan on November 3, 2005
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Grover,
I reccommend reading the following links. They should get you going in the right direction and possibly give you the much needed insight on this fascinatig yet inherently dangerous hobby.
Just type in or cut and paste the following addresses into your address bar.
Are you really prepared? By Manny Rubio
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/56
1st best hot! By Adam Grayson
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/20
Common novice handling mistakes. By Allen Hunter
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/16
Lessons in handling. By Karl Betz
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/13
Copperhead basics. By Mardi Snipes
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/7
Copperhead bite! By Phil Gillette
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/59
Society's view on venomous keepers. By Gaylon Holmes
http://www.venomousreptiles.org/articles/3
State laws regarding keeping venomous reptiles.
http://www.coastalreptiles.com/venomous_laws.htm
I hope this helps you. I know it is alot of reading but if you are serious about entering into the hot hobby it is neccessary. Remember knowledge is power.
~ Todd
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by stopgetinpopped on November 3, 2005
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All good info. I have only two additions.
1) the best way to learn about snakebite is through experience...........someone else's!
2) Please, do not release a snake back into the wild that has been in captivity for even a short period of time as was suggested earlier (well intentioned I'm sure).
Especially if you keep other snakes or other reptiles, the possible catastrophic introduction of exotic parasites, bacteria, viruses and other ecologically damaging sorts into a local population.
It is generally not recommended to take a snake more than 1-3 miles from it's capture site for fear of the above.
Best Regards,
Terry Phillip
Curator
Black Hills Reptile Gardens
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by ALA_herp31 on November 4, 2005
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In Alabama, the Venomous Laws are very touchy and make no sense at all. It is legal to own all the Alabama Native Venomous, but you can’t own any Exotic Venomous period. If you try to get a Permit, they will turn you down no mater what your reason for Keeping is. This is a way of taking your Keeping Rights away, without telling you exactly what they mean by Permit Required. You will be able to own either A. c. mokasen or A. c. contortrix, both are found in Alabama. If you do plane to Buy a CB Snake from a Dealer. It would be advisable for you to find a Breeder in your Home State, because it is Illegal to bring any Venomous Snake into Alabama unless it was Born in Alabama. I know that this Law makes no sense, but it is Alabama Law “LOL”. Take care and I wish you the best of luck. ..................Be Safe Ya’ll, Happy Herping : Wally
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by agkistrodude on November 4, 2005
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I love copperheads and will agree that they would make a good first hot,but alot of them don't hook well and some can be a challenge to feed.I might think about a cottonmouth.Almost all of them that I've had have been very easy to work with and they all eat like pigs.Especially captive bred specimens.(of corse there are exceptions)Just keep in mind that they're a bit hotter than coppers. Marty
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by Crotalus_Catcher on November 6, 2005
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But let's not forget the whole musking aspect of the cottons... I've had more than one date after work asking 'what is that smell?" after a day of working with our leucostomas! It does NOT come off. I'd have to recommend the coppers as well.
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