Hypoxia and Lactic Acid Build Up in Feeder Mice ? - Experts Forum at VenomousReptiles.org

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by Cro on June 22, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Larry, I will try a few experiments concerning this. I happen to have a C02 tank and regulator (beer and wine making are one of my passions), and I have also started raising my own mice again to get around this problem with the frozen folks. I want to try using C02 like you did in a high concentration, and in a low and slow concentration, as suggested in the post. Another variable will be the freezing, and if there is a difference between frozen and never frozen mice. I plan to work with only hoppers, and Carolina Pygmy Rattlesnakes, as I have not observed this reaction from other snakes, or snakes that eat large mice. We still dont know if the commercial mice folks use the low and slow C02 method, or if they just turn on the valve and zap them full blast. Should be interesting to see what the results are. I am going to predict in advance that the hoppers that have been gassed over a long time might be less accepted by the picky snakes, as they would have had more time for their blood chemistry to change. And I am going to predict that those that were put into an high concentration will not be be offensive to the snakes. Should be an interesting experiment. Best Regards JohnZ

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by Cro on June 26, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Jeremy, did you recieve the email that I sent to you? Best Regards JohnZ

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by Phobos on June 30, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Interesting thread. I almost exclusively use Rodent Pro and have no problems I attribute to the method they are killed. I agree with Larry's first post on the subject. I think it's most of the case of too much of the natural scent being lost. Al

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by Cro on June 30, 2007	Mail this to a friend!
Well, I have gotten to the point that I am starting to raise mice again, as my snakes prefer them, and I think they are more healthy and nutritional anyway. It is not fun having snakes not eat an animal that was quite expensive, and having to throw it out. You all keep on using your frozen mices, and I will use my fresh, well fed, home raised, liked by snakes mice. Perhaps I will even set up a side line business raising live mices for the local herp folks to purchase. Just don't want to have to start raising rats again, as they are a real pain. Best Regards JohnZ

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