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by Kingetula on September 10, 2007
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I did a search here at VR.org (snake gloves) and found a link to where I could find some but I would like to ask if anyone here uses them? I keep seeing pictures of needles bending when pressed against them but...
I watched snake wranglers where a guy had gloves on and was just picking HOT snakes up. Everything I read about the gloves seem to come with a, "No snake glove is 100% puncture proof". I keep thinking... I want to see a youtube.com video of these gloves in action against a full grown Gaboon Viper. If it withstands that bite I'll buy it.
I see some of these gloves go well above $100.00. I'm thinking about getting some for those times I am cleaning cages or whatever. (Safety and prevention is always at the top of my list) I just don't want to spend hundreds of dollars and be the one who proves these gloves suck.
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by rthom on September 10, 2007
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Well... cops are sold "bullet resitant vest's" with a list of projectile's it will stop. Have not seen any "official" tests on the gloves yet.
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by Cro on September 10, 2007
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Scott, I use the TurtleSkin FullCoverage Aramid Plus Gloves, that are from the Warwick Mills / Turtleskin Store that I posted in the past at:
https://www.turtleskin.com/store/
I would not use these gloves to pick up venomous snakes, as that is reckless.
However, I do use them when tubing and medicating and force feeding venomous snakes. That way, if a snake manages to hook a fang back toward one of my fingers, I will have some protection, and perhaps less penetration due to resistance that the gloves offer.
Since that post I see that Warwick Mills / TurtleSkin has several new glove items in their catalogue. All gloves are constructed by sewing, so there will be small needle holes where the stitching is. These needle holes might provide a way for a snakes fang to reach your hand inside of the glove, however, they use industrial sewing machines and industrial needles that produce much more penetrating force than any snake is capabable of delivering in a strike. They rate the gloves in 3 levels of puncture resistance, and it would be best to go with the higest level possible as long as the glove still remains flexable enough for dexterious use with small venomous snakes.
If you wade through the Turtle Skins somewhat difficult web site, you will find a lot of good test information as to puncture resistance of various gloves in some of the sub-menus.
Be carefull in your choice though, as you will see some of the leather gloves with the arimid liners have great protection in the finger tips and palms, but the rest of the glove has less protection. Those gloves are designed for police searching use. Those that offer full coverage of the hand and wrist area that are designed for veternary use will probably be a better choice.
Bottom Line, no glove is 100 % "snake proof," however, some can offer an increased level of protection that could be well worth the price. If you go to Dr. Fry`s site, you will see him using "snake proof" gloves when he handles snakes he is milking for research. Even heavy leather gloves are going to offer more protection than your bare hands.
Let us know here which glove you decide to go with once you choose one, and let us know how you like it after use. The dexterity of the glove will always be an issue as the protection levels increase. Only a few snake handlers will be willing to invest $100.00 in a pair of gloves, so research as to their performance will probably be a bit slow coming from real world situations.
Best Regards JohnZ
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by LarryDFishel on September 10, 2007
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I've never used any of hese gloves, but I know of two people who were bitten through stich holes. I'm not sure what brands they were using. One ended up being a dry bite (mamba) and the other was a fairly minimal envenomation (cobra). I suspect both snakes realeased their venom while their fangs were passing though the holes.
If I remember right the cobra bite was while handlng the snake and the mamba bite was either while retrieving a water dish or cleaning a cage. Either way, that's enough that I wouldn't use them as my primary means of protection. I either use a shield or remove the snake from the cage first.
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by tj on September 10, 2007
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Larry beat me to it. I'm assuming the mamba bite I was going to mention is the same person. That's more than enough for me as well. Personally, I'd use the gloves for boiga, if they're really even needed, but not for ANY elapids or vipers. Just not worth it to me. Especially after hearing that short fangs can get through.
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by Cro on September 10, 2007
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A quick Google search will show that the person who recieved the dry bite from the West African Green Mamba was wearing Leather Gloves, not gloves designed to be puncture resistant. Even still, the leather gloves probably offered some resistance to the bite, and might have caused the snake to release its venom before the fangs were sunk into flesh.
The glove tests that Dr. Fry did with the Midwest Kevlar / Leather Gloves were quite interesting.
There is a new puncture resistant glove material on the market that I will be evaluating soon, and perhaps I will conduct tests that duplicate those that were done by Dr. Fry with the Midwest Gloves. I just need to find some reptile keepers / dealers who are willing to let their snakes be part of the experiment. John P. do you have any interest in an experiment like this ?
Best Regards JohnZ
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by FLVenom911 on September 10, 2007
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The Dendroaspis viridis dry bite wasn't the result of using the Midwest gloves as a primary choice of handling, it happened when the animal was being restrained. The fang penetrated the leather, not through the stitch hole.
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by LarryDFishel on September 10, 2007
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My bad Joe. I may have been getting a couple of different incidents mixed up. (My memory goes back about 2 hours.)
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by Cro on September 10, 2007
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Joe, would you be willing to let your Dendroaspis chew on a pair of gloves in a experiment similar to that done by Dr. Fry with the frozen water inside of latex glove liners ?
Let me know.
Best Regards JohnZ
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