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by Cro on September 23, 2008
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Kyle, since you use the word "frequently," I will tell you that Copperheads are commonly found around Laura S. Walker and Crooked River State Parks on the SE Coast.
As far as other areas in Central and Western, South GA, I will let others who have hunted and live in those areas answer you, as they will know better if the Copperhead populations are large enough to be considered frequent finds.
Best Regards John Z
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by Buzztail1 on September 23, 2008
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I would have to disagree with you there, John.
Crooked River State Park is TWO MILES down the street from my house and Copperheads are not found in Camden County.
I even went so far as to put up a reward (15 years ago and still counting) for a live Copperhead found in Camden County.
Still no takers.
R/
Karl H. Betz
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by CottonmouthKyle on September 23, 2008
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Laura S. Walker????? Really???? I've hunted there for years and have never found a copperhead. Who do you know that has found one in that area????? I don't live but maybe 10 - 15 miles from the park.
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by Cro on September 23, 2008
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It is interesting to hear that you have not found Copperheads in that area. I have found them at both of those parks. It was over 25 years ago, so things might have changed some, but they were there then.
At that time, I was making probably 20 trips a year to that area hunting snakes, so it was not just a casual thing. On each of those trips we drove hundreds of miles road cruising and spent hours tin flipping. Checking back through the log books, I also find a road kill copperhead recorded on 252 between White Oak and Tarboro.
Mardi S. has collected several wonderfull light colored copperheads in the area below Savannah. I have one of the males in my collection now. But I do not know the exact location, so it could have been 50 miles North of Crooked River. Next time I see Mardi, I will ask him just what County they came from.
I know others that have found copperheads at Crooked River, but again, that was in years past.
The further you get South, the more scarce copperheads become. I have a reliable report of one from Fargo. And, last year a couple of them turned up at Apalachicola near Tate's Hell.
Also, copperheads have been found on Jekyll Island and Sapelo Island. The one that was killed on Jekyll two summers ago made the local news papers.
Snakes are found in a lot of areas that are not recorded on the State Range Maps. That is because the museum folks who write the books do not have a pickled snake recorded.
That does not mean that the snakes are not found there, it just means that they are not represented on the maps that the museum herpers draw up.
A great example is the Mole Kingsnake. The range maps show it in the Northern part of Georgia, and they show it in the Northern part of Florida, with a huge gap in South Georgia, that is not on the range map. A couple of summers ago, Phillip H. and I found a road killed Mole Kingsnake near Waycross. Despite the official book, they are there.
Another good example, is the Coastal Islands of Georgia. The new State Herp book leaves many snakes off of those islands. When I was working with the NOAA on the Coastal Islands, I found many harmless and venomous snakes. Are those finds recorded on the range maps ? Nope ! We just have range maps that show blank for those animals.
I would suggest that you keep looking, as copperheads are found in extreme South Eastern Georgia, or at least they used to be. They might not be very common, but they are there.
Best Regards John Z
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