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by Cro on May 2, 2009
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Chance, the Government would still bring in all the money they need with a flat tax. And the States would continue to bring in sales tax money also.
We would just not have the IRS anymore, or witholding of Federal tax from your pay check.
And hopefully, they would spend more of the money on schools, instead of bailing out the wall street fatcats.
And things like the fire fighters, police, bridges, roads would still be funded. We would just be collecting the money by a different metheod.
One thing for sure, money is becoming less and less valuable. Think about it. We are talking about a piece of a pine tree with green ink on it. It only has value if folks continue to pretend that it has value.
As you stated, it is now illegal for folks to go into the Everglades and collect Burmese Pythons. However, Florida has a Alligator hunt in the Everglades. They sell you a liscense, and have a hunting season.
The Burmese Pythons could be treated the same way. Charge folks $10.00 for a Python Hunting Permit. The revenue would help pay for the Bounty Stations, and the folks to run them, and the freezers, etc. All it would take is a simple change in the law to make it legal. How hard is that ?
And the Feral Cat Bounty is a great idea also. If the State did not want to pay much Bounty for a Feral Cat, you could always take it to the back door of a Chinese Buffet, and sell it there, LOL.
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John Z
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by agkistrodude on May 3, 2009
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John, the tax system you are describing sounds like the FairTax that was introduced by John Linder,HR 25, it is not a flat tax. The flat tax has been done. That's how we got were we are now. Take care, Marty
www.fairtax.org
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by Cro on May 3, 2009
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Marty, you are right, I was talking about the FairTax that was introduced by John Linder.
I just got the titles confused.
After reading the book, and listning to a lot about that Tax System, I think it could very well work.
Some aspects of it are might need to be changed a bit, but, overall it is a interesting idea.
Getting rid of the IRS would be one of the great benefits to such a plan. That would end the Taxation Through Intimidation system that we now have.
If we could sieze the momentum of the Tea Party movement, and build it stronger and stronger, we could force some real reform in this country.
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John Z
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by tigers9 on May 5, 2009
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http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10298124
Bounty in effect again on pikeminnows
Associated Press - May 4, 2009 11:44 AM ET
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - It's open season again on northern pikeminnows, a voracious breed of fish that eats millions of young salmon and steelhead in the Columbia and Snake rivers.
The pikeminnows have a price on their heads. Anglers are paid $4 per fish nine inches or larger for the first 100. The price gradually goes to $8 per fish as an angler catches and turns in more. The program is funded by the Bonneville Power Administration.
The fish must be caught in the Columbia River below Priest Rapids Dam and in the Snake below Hells Canyon Dam.
Since 1990, more than 3 million pikeminnows have been caught through the program, resulting in a reduction in pikeminnow predation estimated at 38%.
Additional information: 1-800-858-9015 or http://www.pikeminnow.org .
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by Cro on May 5, 2009
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Excellent find Zuzana !
Just more proof that my idea of a Bounty System for rounding up introduced wildlife, like Burmese Pythons in the Everglades, and Iguana Lizards in South Florida, will work !
Also, all of you Chefs down there, who want to offer unusual / ethnic foods, Iguana Lizard is excellent, when it is prepared corectly. Start honing your lizard recipes ! That will help provide a market for the excess Iguana Lizards that are turned in for the Bounty.
Come on Florida, pass the legislation for a Bounty System, and clean up your problems !
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John Zegel
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by toddg on May 5, 2009
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Hmm, a hundred bucks a skin.
What's to prevent anybody from buying a bunch of burms (since they're relatively common and cheap) and just "saying" they caught them in the 'glades and making a little money?
Still, a bunch of partially toothed, liquored up swampbillies lookin' to kill something for cash, I have to admit, does sound appealing.
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by Cro on May 5, 2009
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Todd, it would not surprise me a bit, if at first, all of the $35.00 Burmese Pythons in the local pet shops were quickly bought up, and turned in for a Bounty.
After all, that is what free enterprise is all about ?
But, something like that should be self limiting very quickly.
And I think that the State of Florida should check the DNA of every large, tick infested, scarred up, obviously wild, Burmest Python that is turned in for a Bounty.
I would be willing to bet we would see a common ancester, which would suggest that some big breeders perhaps dumped a bunch of normal Burmese pythons all at once, perhaps because they were breeding albinos, and had little use for the numerous normals and the hets that were produced ?
Perhaps the ancestor snakes are still in captivity, and in breeding programs ? Would that not be a shock to see that great grampy and great gramy Burmese were still in a breeding program at a dealers store in S. Florida ?
The idea that hundreds of folks who were tired of their pet Burmese python drove 100 miles out to the glades from Miami to dump it is preposterous !
The idea that one or two big Burmese python breeders dumped 40 or 50 newly born pythons at once makes a lot of sense to me. It would explain why we do not see many other animals like Ball Pythons or Anacondas, or African Pythons in the glades.
I think that the DNA will show a common ancestor. Then some of the reptile dealers who think that the "Burmese pythons are the best thing that ever happened to the Everglades," just might re-consider their statements.
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John Z
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by tigers9 on May 5, 2009
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toddg and Cro, let's get even more iffy (maybe hitting the nail on the head???), what is preventing AR freaks buying these cheap pythons and releasing them in Everglades to scare the public and create an artificial problem so they can ban exotic pets with HR 669??? Were the infamous NC cobras ever found?
Many Ar groups are terrorists, the buy/release pythons scheme would be their least scary act, considering they plant real bombs in animal researchers' cars
I have been warning folks about this AR threat for over 10 years, i sounded radical then and nobody took my AR be aware calls seriously, on this forum even 1 year ago i was attacked for being paranoid, but show me where I was ever wrong in long term history. too bad recent HSUS lover Rush Limby owns the phrase ' see I told u so'
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by tigers9 on May 5, 2009
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PS: woudln't it be easieer for the supposed bad dumping albino breeders just to kill the regular colors tiny babies, instead of driving to EverGlades?
This idea makes less sense to me than intentional relase, like AR do
z
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