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by IanG on May 27, 2003
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Hi,
I was watching a trashy magic show on tv the other night, and they did a bit about a magician that had to get out of a pit of snakes, anyway, they had a guy there talking about venomous snakes and he was free handling a Mangrove snake ( I think it was, he said it wa rear fanged, and it was a good sive, black with yellow stripes),
Anyway he let this sanke bite him, it did draw blood but he said he would be Ok as it was rear fanged and would jot of been able to evenomate, but I did see it making a chweing motion, and i would of thought any herper would not of done this as a demo a it gave
in my opinion the wrong impression,
What do you think ???
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by spanky on May 27, 2003
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IanG, you are very right.. the mangrove snake could have made him wish he had never do that, or maybe it was a venomoid, they do that a lot to.. in any case yes, you are right..
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by Crotalus64 on May 27, 2003
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I have seen a Blandings Tree Snake put someone in the hospital for a few days, he had a bad allergic reaction. Mangroves can do the same thing.
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Anonymous post on May 28, 2003
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I think the snake very well could have been venomoid. However, it may not have been. In any case, your right, that does not leave a very good impression for anybody, herper or not. Apparently this guy has been studying snakes for a long time, and had been bitten by mangroves several times to be confident of a dry bite. Either that, or he was very ignorant.
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by Chance on May 30, 2003
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I very seriously doubt that the mangrove was a venomoid. They are rear-fangs and have very poor venom delivering apparati, so even a prolonged chewing often won't yield any interesting results. I realize there is some heavy research being done in the rear-fang species, and probably when refined it's venom is fairly toxic, but just keep in mind yield and what the crude "venom" would be made up of (lots of saliva, etc). You'd probably be more in danger of getting an infection than an envenomation. While mangroves and blanding's trees are not snakes that you just want to let yourself be bitten by, they are fairly mild in the longrun. I'd be concerned for an elderly person or a very small child being chewed on, but an otherwise healthy-ish adult human is not likely to have any problems unless he/she is severely allergic. By the way, is it even possible to venomoid a rear-fanged snake like a mangrove? I'm not entirely sure how the duvernoy's gland functions, and I guess it would be possible to remove, but come on, do you really think someone would really waste the time and money on "venomoiding" a mangrove? Just my thoughts.
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