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by CanadianSnakeMan on August 5, 2010
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Are they trying to fix the problems with CroFab or go back to the Wyeth horse serum? It seems like CroFab is far too expensive for what it does.
Organizations shouldn't be allowed to benefit from a person's illnesses and misery. The social cost of people paying out of pocket for health care is bad enough that I think it's worth the higher taxes for a simple pay health care system.
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by venominme on August 5, 2010
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AquaHerp- 43 vials of Wyeth, Al comments that’s a lot of horse serum. Actually, that’s a lot of mercury. The thimerosol used as a preservative in the old Wyeth was the reason it was discontinued. To just use a different preservative or take out the mercury, would require complete start-over with FDA for approvals. It wasn’t worth it. The new (at the time) CroFab used no thimerosol as a preservative (under a mandate to stop using it) but ironically still has some small trace of mercury from another part of the manufacturing process. The whole problem is the FDA approvals process. It is ridiculously expensive, for example, the Mexican coral snake antivenom that is known to be the very best, the cost is just prohibitive to do the clinical trials. They should be able to look at everything “on paper” and based on historic usage, grant approval to use for emergency first aid for envenomation period. And the whole IgG Wyeth product was far superior to cleaved fragment CroFab but the allergic reaction was pretty overblown by the promoters of CroFab. It was not that much of a problem to treat in a hospital setting when it happened. It could be minimized on the spot. CroFab could have used whole IgG from sheep instead of fragment (I guess you couldn’t call it Fab) and it would work as well as Wyeth except the allergy would be to sheep instead of horse. They should have taken the preservative out of Wyeth and kept making it.
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by SamJ on August 9, 2010
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"Organizations shouldn't be allowed to benefit from a person's illnesses and misery."
Then we wouldn't have any hospitals.
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by agkistrodude on August 10, 2010
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Or anything. Without profit, Every private sector business would close it's doors. Only government can continue to operate, and even grow, in the red.
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by jay72 on August 10, 2010
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I heard of an Adamanteus bite a few years ago that the total bill was around $500,000 (antivenom, ER, hospital stay etc).
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by Crotalusssp on August 10, 2010
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"Or churches"
LMAO, Nice one BGF.
Charles
The admanteus bite, if it is the one I think you are talking about, was closer to $600,000+.
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by CanadianSnakeMan on August 10, 2010
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SamJ -
I was referring to health care organizations that operate on a profit motive, not public sector health care... and yes, there are hospitals (some damn good ones too) that operate without profit.
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