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RE: ratio of wild caught to captive bred
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by CanadianSnakeMan on June 11, 2010
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It's not the professional institutions saving endangered species through captive breeding that I have a problem with, it's the pet trade using them for profit. If pet retailers only sold animals to people that they knew would be reasonably well prepared to take care of them then it wouldn't be such a problem but they don't. They just try to make a buck.
Like you said, most captive health problems are husbandry related. If the stats you give are accurate and 90% of WC animals survive the capture, transit and time on the market what good is it if their owners end up not taking care of them properly and they die anyway?
This problem is virtually non-existant in a non-profit institution filled with experts whose main function is to promote conservation. I'm not saying that people shouldn't own reptiles, or that they shouldn't be collected and introduced to captive breeding programs. All I'm saying is that when you put a price on the heads of these animals, they become a commodity to be traded and people will exploit that at the expense of whatever ecosystem they come from.
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RE: ratio of wild caught to captive bred
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by Cro on June 12, 2010
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The reason that more newly imported snakes are surviving the transport process, is due to faster services being available, with all kinds of next day, second day, third day options being offered by the big transport companies.
In the old days, it could take a shipment of reptiles 2 weeks to reach its destination. During that time, there was no food or water for the animals, and not much control on the temperatures they were shipped at.
Even if only 5% of newly imported animals die in shipping, the great majority of the survivors will be dead within a year, because the folks they are sold to as pets have no idea how to keep them healthy and alive. They do not know how to treat the parasites they have, or quarantine them from the rest of their collections, and they do not know how to get them to feed.
The pet trade kills millions of animals a year, just to provide the handful of animals that do survive.
It is time for that kind of waste to stop.
Captive bred is the way to go for most of the animals that folks want for pets.
Zoos importing animals is a different thing entirely. They do not import 150 bush vipers at a time, and take them to a reptile show to be sold in mass right after importing.
How many of that huge shipment survived ? How many of you folks who bought them still have them alive ?
No one is speaking up. I am sure some survived. But, I bet most did not. Is it worth importing 150 animals so that a couple of years later, 10 or 12 of them are still alive in collections ?
Best Regards
John Z
Best Regards
John Z
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