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by agkistrodude on March 18, 2011
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Well, by your definition, I too am an expert, as I have raised 2 children to adulthood while keeping venomous snakes. And yet, when I brought up a perfectly logical concern, That I know has happened in the past in states were venomous snakes are legal, your response was... "Also, no organization is going to take my child away for endangering a child because I am not breaking any laws and I am not endangering my child this is real ignorant hippy garbage and this person should have their account revoked.".... Not only have there been cases of children being removed because of venomous snakes, I even know of cases where kids were removed from homes because of non-venomous snakes, such as Burmese pythons. It can and has happened. So I'll just give you my "expert opinion" on your original question of "Should I gets my 12 year old a hot?" No.
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by Crotalusssp on March 18, 2011
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I too answered the first post and would also like to state......I have a child and I keep venomous currently.
Charles
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by CanadianSnakeMan on March 18, 2011
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Are venomus snake illegal in Ontario? No, but legislation is coming. Many communities have their own by-laws and that's why I keep my collection at the zoo I manage.
Did I go herping for hots in Ontario as a child? Actually, yes I did. S. catenatus is common in Southern Ontario.
Does a zookeeper job pay enough to feed my kids? No. That's what the army's for. I do the zoo job because I love working with the animals.
Did I have my child at 17? That's none of your business, but he's old enough and I've had enough time with him to know that I wouldn't do with him what you're doing with your son. I'm not trying to sound judgemental, I'm sure your 12 year old son is an expert handler of venomous snakes... I just wouldn't make the same decisions you're making, that's all.
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by vanerka on March 18, 2011
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whats the matter with this idiot? And why wont he quit posting? Not to mention your opinion of expert responses make no sense at all unless you, yourself are some kind of expert in any field what so ever, which i highly doubt. Knock off the crap and stay off the site.
Thanks, Eric
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by LarryDFishel on March 18, 2011
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I apologize in advance if someone has already said this (I didn't read all the responses), but your logic sounds a lot lot like asking if it's a good idea to shoot yourself in the head and saying you will only accept advice from people who have tried it.
You won't get responses on this site from people who have let their 12-year-olds keep venomous snakes because they won't be here. They'd be too bored with people talking about useless things like safety.
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by Rob_Carmichael on March 19, 2011
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Like Doug said, many zookeeping jobs pay quite well. I have raised my family, provided for them, and now, paying for their college (and I'll have two in college at the same time). Oh wait, that makes me qualified as an "expert" to respond to this person's post. When my daughters were 12 they wanted to work with rattlesnakes, vipers, etc. I said "no". Why? Well, besides the obvious such as having DCFS come knocking at my door, they were just too young, and being 12 years old is far too young to work with hots! Did my girls hang around me and watch me work with the hots? Sure thing. They watched. They observed. But in the end, like many 12 year olds, they both went on to other interests as I expected. During their youth they pursued gymnastics, dance and track and field and have since become elite athletes, accomplished dancers, and wonderful kids. Without pushing them into my profession, they explored many other interests at their own pace. Now, they are getting ready to go onto college and guess what they want to study? Wildlife Biology, Marine Biology and the veterinary sciences. I'm just going to bite my tongue on any future comments.
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by agkistrodude on March 19, 2011
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Ditto Rob, My daughter was DIE HARD into snakes when she was younger and was always there as I worked with them. Now she is 18 and what I would easily call a VERY experienced horse enthusiast. She barrel races with the NBHA, and rides on the Franklin County Free Spirits Horsemanship drill team. Her priorities have switched over to horses, but she can work comfortably with any snake in my hot building with my full endorsement, as she has all of the respect and training that I would expect from any handler. After all, I trained her myself......(my wife isn't real pleased with that! LOL!) Take care, Marty
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by varivenom on March 19, 2011
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Erase my comments even though they were true. Again everbodies kids our their own responsibility, but at that age how many didnt already own their first rifle or shotgun and hunt? I had my first rifle at 9 is that any different? Guns kill more people everyyear than snakes and cars together, but no one has ever made a comment to anybody at my gun club when they bring their 9,10, &11 year old kids to learn and practice. They even have competitions for them. Im not siding with whoever that guy is. I would just like to know the difference. If an 11 or 12 yr old can successfully operate, control, and clean their own firearm whats the difference. Even though this post will probably be deleted doesnt make bit of difference in my world. Just shows bullheadedness and an inability to compromise. I know that in the beginning I was sooooo much more focused and cautious with my hots than most people twice my age because I wanted to prove myself. Now I could careless what others think or say. Years later its such a common everyday same ole same ole. Its pretty much robot work. Hook snake into box. Scoop poop, clean dish,& remove shed. Hook snake back in.
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by agkistrodude on March 19, 2011
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Well for starters, a venomous snake is an alive, moving, self defensive animal. A rifle or handgun isn't. My kids were brought up around venomous snakes and guns. They never had to guess about either one, they just had to ask. They are now grown, and no worries with snakes or guns.At 14 I could strip, clean and reassemble my deer rifle in no time at all. Blindfolded? Never tried it, But I'll bet I could. Who cares?
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