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by varivenom on March 19, 2011
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Both totally missed the point. Guns kill more people than just about anything else on earth, but no one makes a big deal outta kids using or owning them as long as they are TRAINED properly same should be said with hots, but is not. Since I was 12 and a hot keeper no one has ever questioned my abilities because I was TRAINED and licensed. I just believe it should be upto the parents and their kids abilities. And for whoever though that was tommy trolling. I checked with my buddy that sold him the wetars and its not. I am not siding with anybody I just believe in commonsense. It tells me right from wrong even at an early age. Now this cant be said for everybody I realize that. It does however mean that there are younger generations that do posses these abilities also. Everyone has an opinion. This is just mine by observation. Of this website and others as well.
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by varivenom on March 19, 2011
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Ive been on this website for years, and I just sit and watch how everyone is so quick to judge. I have never claimed to be an expert. No kids! Lol I guess I just believe in people and their ability to learn.
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by StevenO on March 20, 2011
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I have a daughter and I wouldn't get her a hot. There are plenty of wonderful snakes out there that won't kill her. When she is an adult and legally able to make the decision for herself it will be up to her. Til then NO!
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by agkistrodude on March 20, 2011
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Actually Tim, I would argue that a gun has never killed anyone. The person holding it did. You can't say that about a snake. Snakes are capable of killing all by themselves. Take care, Marty
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by varivenom on March 20, 2011
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Actually back in 2004 my brother was killed by a gun. It was knocked off the end table by the dog and myself roughhousing and shot him in his chest. He lived for 10 min till his cavity filled with blood and he drown. I still have nightmares. S&W model 626 .357 mag. I still own it today. Guess thats why I proposed the question. Not your problem just my issue.
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by LarryDFishel on March 20, 2011
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I'm very sorry to hear about your brother. Accidents like you mention, while tragic, are EXTREMELY rare. Unless it was sitting on the table cocked, it's defective. I would consider having it looked at if you haven't already. (and not that it matters, but did you maybe mean a 686 or 627? I'm fairly certain they never made a 626.)
In the U.S. gun-related deaths and vehicle deaths run about even, with the exception that 98% of gun-related deaths are INTENTIONAL (about half are suicides, half homicides).
Last I read, we were running about 700 accidental deaths a year, which probably still includes a few "shot himself while cleaning his gun" accidents (i.e. covered up suicides).
Then consider that tens of millions of people in the U.S. own guns and the accidental death rate may be lower than for choking to death on food...
None of which really addresses your point though. I think my dad had a gun when he was 12. I didn't (did have BB guns), but then he grew up in a more rural area than I did. There really was nowhere for me to shoot. I shot at a range with the Boy Scouts, but then the rifle never did anything unexpected by itself and I could have set it down and walked away without having to worry about it wandering off and shooting someone. It wouldn't have shot me if I got distracted and looked away for a second...
And just to be thorough, while I don't have a problem with it in many cases, your contention that no one complains about kids having guns is at least 30 years out of date.
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by varivenom on March 20, 2011
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Nope the 626 is one of s&w most widely sold revolvers ever. I used to be a firearms broker. It landed on the hammer drawing it back. As the tension mounted it sprung foward contacting the firing pin. And he fell instantly. Bled out in his chest and lungs. If you go down to the shooting range a mile from my house. Right now there is a comp. Going for kids from 9 to 13 most of which parents drop them off all day. I belonged to it for years as a youth. Great people and awesome memories. This is the same throughout most of the ranges in ok.
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by agkistrodude on March 20, 2011
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Sorry to hear about your brother Tim. I stand by my statement though. That gun could have sat on that end table for 1000 years without hurting anyone, until someone intervened in some way, unfortunately, even accidentally. It can't hurt anyone all by itself. A snake can. Take care, Marty
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by Buzztail1 on March 20, 2011
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Are we really continuing a discussion about what is more dangerous to kids - guns or venomous snakes?
Really?
How about this?
Every child is an individual who can only be properly evaluated by an appropriately attentive, responsible adult (usually a parent) who would ordinarily be in a position to make decisions about whether or not they are prepared to handle a gun or venomous snake or any other life changing situation.
Isn't that pretty much THE POINT of responsible parenting?
I cannot imagine asking ANYONE online (or elsewhere) for their opinion of how to parent my child.
That said, I think this whole set of discussions really has no place here. Not that anyone's opinion is any less valid than anyone else's but that their opinion may not properly reflect the situation for the people that are asking the question or being asked about.
Sorry, I just can't believe that this is still continuing.
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Karl
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