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Getting started with Venomous Snakes
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by Dachindae on June 26, 2013
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now that I'm finally out of the house, I can start with venomous species.
I own a small collection of 2 ball pythons, 2 corn snakes, a western hognose, a 6ft BCC, and some assorted lizards. I've had one of the ball pythons since I was six years old and I'm 21 now. [he's my snuggly baby]
I really want to get into venomous species since they are my favorites, mostly vipers and elapids. I want to start out with an Agkistrodon contortrix subspecies. More specifically a Agkistrodon contortrix mokasen or a Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix. I plan on buying one and my needed supplies once I get a good job.
I live in Wyoming and as far as I can tell, I need no permit for any venomous snake unless it is a local endangered species. [I'll need to do more direct research though to make sure they aren't illegal in my county]
But what I really want to do is find someone to be my mentor. I don't want to dive head-first into venomous because that can be disastrous. I could watch all the videos in the world and still not be prepared. I need to learn by hands-on experience.
I'm not really sure how to find someone in my area or how to ask.
TLDR; I want to get into venomous snakes but I am unsure of how to find someone to train me in my area.
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by etc on June 26, 2013
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"TLDR; I want to get into venomous snakes but I am unsure of how to find someone to train me in my area."
I personally believe that the fact you have a tendency to anthropomorphize (i.e. snuggly baby) reptiles and are using internet memes (I may be one of a few who understood TLDR) may raise red flags for potential mentors in your area who are reading this. Not to say you can't handle non-venomous snakes or have a good laugh. Nor am I saying such things these things should immediately and completely rule you out. However, for the very first impression potential mentors who will be liable in case anything unfortunate happened may not see these as ideal attributes in a protege.
As you know, venomous keeping is indeed serious and it takes specific traits within an individual to carry out such procedures safely and properly. You should try to expound such traits of sincerity as much as possible when seeking assistance from strangers to deal with animals that has the potential to kill you.
Best,
TK
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by Dachindae on June 26, 2013
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I tend to call my pets by nicknames [stinker, little sh!t, toad]. He IS indeed a snuggly snake and very tolerant. But he is a pet. If he were a venomous animal, I would not call him as such.
I would never call a venomous snake a "snuggly baby" because they can kill you. I think they are beautiful and quite a number of them are downright adorable, but I'm not going to try and cuddle one.
My venomous would not be "pets". They are zoological specimens.
They would have names, yes, but I'm not stupid enough to go and try to handle them. Unless its necessary for cleaning and medical care. That's what snake hooks, tubes, heavy gloves for smaller/rear fanged, and buckets with secure lids are for. ['smaller' as in teeny hatchlings/snakes with small fangs that can't get through a tough material]
I still have a lot to learn, but that is why I am trying to find someone to teach me. I won't be ready for a venomous for a few years.
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by agkistrodude on June 27, 2013
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Personally I applaud you for trying to get into venomous husbandry the way you are, asking for help before you go out and buy that forest cobra.(or whatever) Your attitude is far superior to most youngsters I see these days that want a hot snake. A mentor is the best way to learn, and I hope somebody out there in Wyoming will "take you under his/her wing" and teach you how to safely keep these animals. Best of luck too you. Take care, Marty
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by najas on June 28, 2013
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Well, you have so far only told us you keep a number of entry level snakes and you have learned almost everything about venomous from watching Al Coritz's youtube videos. Yes, your ball python has been in captivity for so long its sensory has been dulled senseless. No, it does not like to cuddle. You should know this. If you knew this, then why are you saying otherwise to people you want to be taken serious to? Why not show some earnest potential instead? For almost everyone reading this thread, it is very clear that you are not even ready for a mentor. You have only presented yourself as a premature individual who is better off appreciating venomous snakes from a safe distance.
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by constrictorfreak on June 29, 2013
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Marty couldn't have said it better . You will learn well young padawan . You are definately headed in the right direction and hope someone close helps you out .
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by najas on June 30, 2013
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With all due respect for members of this site and the next generation of venomous keepers; if an individual is repeatedly stating that they like to snuggle with their ball python when asking for a venomous mentor, more experienced persons must take a critical stance in order to assess whether or not the person in question is psychologically adequate to be handling venomous snakes.
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Thomas Rothwell
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by agkistrodude on June 30, 2013
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I don't have a problem with her cuddling with her ball python, or with her naming her snakes. The fact that she is looking for a mentor before she acquires her first venomous snake tells me she wants to learn the right way. I respect your opinion, but speak for yourself, not for others. Take care, Marty
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by najas on June 30, 2013
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Whether or not this individual is "cuddling" a ball python or giving it a name is none of my business. When an individual cannot analyze the situation appropriately and deliberately displays immature qualities when asking for a venomous mentor, I do become alarmed enough to speak out. I respect everyone who is responsibly keeping venomous snakes, but I do not respect your opinion. You do not seem capable of any critical thinking. I never said I spoke on behalf of you or your principles.
Thomas Rothwell
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